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Simple1
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They do. Maybe the details are different.
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nicole81
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Fri, Aug 05 2022, 2:13 pm
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We do keep the 3 weeks, but in accordance with the shulcham aruch and other minhagim. Some restrictions, like not listening to music, we keep for the full three weeks. Other restrictions, like laundry, as per the shulchan aruch, can be done until shavuah shechal bo, the week of 9av. Usually this means from motzei shabbat until 9av, ie the longest time we wouldn't have to do laundry is if the fast fell out on a Thursday. I'm not learned enough about sefardi custom (I married into it) to understand why nidche year invalidates the concept of shavuah shecal bo, but it does, so I'm actually doing laundry right now. I understand that if the week ends motzei shabbat and the fast is on Sunday, there's no week before the fast.
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Simple1
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Fri, Aug 05 2022, 2:15 pm
I will add that many Sefardim are makpid not to swim the whole 9 days. I see I cross posted with forestgreen.
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keym
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Fri, Aug 05 2022, 4:56 pm
| nicole81 wrote: | | We do keep the 3 weeks, but in accordance with the shulcham aruch and other minhagim. Some restrictions, like not listening to music, we keep for the full three weeks. Other restrictions, like laundry, as per the shulchan aruch, can be done until shavuah shechal bo, the week of 9av. Usually this means from motzei shabbat until 9av, ie the longest time we wouldn't have to do laundry is if the fast fell out on a Thursday. I'm not learned enough about sefardi custom (I married into it) to understand why nidche year invalidates the concept of shavuah shecal bo, but it does, so I'm actually doing laundry right now. I understand that if the week ends motzei shabbat and the fast is on Sunday, there's no week before the fast. |
I just want to point out that some groups of Sefardim (maybe Turkish?) hold that because tisha Bav is actually Shabbos, Shavuo shchol bo started motzei Shabbos and they don't eat meat, wine, do laundry this whole week.
But last year when Tisha Bav was actually on Sunday, there is no Shavuo shchol bo.
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keym
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Fri, Aug 05 2022, 5:02 pm
| amother [ Jean ] wrote: | | Sefardim don't eat meat or drink wine the entire nine days. From what you mentioned, only laundry is something specifically restricted during shavua shechal bo. Yes, you're correct that depending on country of origin, there are variations in minhag. |
Not wine. But there are definitely some Sefardim from some countries who eat chicken, just not during Shavua shechol bo.
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Fri, Aug 05 2022, 5:10 pm
| keym wrote: | | Not wine. But there are definitely some Sefardim from some countries who eat chicken, just not during Shavua shechol bo. |
Never heard of someone eating chicken, except in the case of a health issue. However we do make havdala on wine in the nine days whereas I don't think ashkenazim do.
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nicole81
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Yesterday at 9:14 am
| keym wrote: | I just want to point out that some groups of Sefardim (maybe Turkish?) hold that because tisha Bav is actually Shabbos, Shavuo shchol bo started motzei Shabbos and they don't eat meat, wine, do laundry this whole week.
But last year when Tisha Bav was actually on Sunday, there is no Shavuo shchol bo. |
Interesting you mention this because earlier in the week (before I posted), I happened to be talking to dh about this and I asked why we don't count the whole week, because cognitively it makes sense to me to have started shavua shecal bo last Saturday night because regardless of the fast, 9 av was shabbat. He said "good question, I don't know" lol. My understanding is that most interpret the restrictions from the week before the fast, and not the actual date of tisha b'av.
Just wanted to add that the restrictions most of us don't hold by until the week of are laundry and haircuts. And we use wine for havdala.
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