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 Thu, Sep 15 2022, 10:49 am
| amother Tangerine wrote: | You often don’t know that you need an exception… until you need that exception. So every girl needs to have an accident in class in order to get bathroom privileges?
I had a stomach issue last night, with no warning. I had only a few minutes to make it to the bathroom. Thankfully I was in my home, not in a classroom. |
Happened to me in college! The next day, I stayed 'home' for my one class, but that day I left the room without announcement three times. Because...adult privilege. No one chastised me. My professor merely asked me after class if I was feeling alright.
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Thu, Sep 15 2022, 10:52 am
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I understand no food or drink in a science lab (step outside) but in a regular class no water?? No bathroom privileges?? I'd consider the latter corporal punishment. And I would ultimately write up and look to terminate any teacher who was adamant that these rules are necessary.
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Thu, Sep 15 2022, 11:18 am
| amother DarkGray wrote: | If your daughter has a real need, speak to the teacher. She'll give permission.
The rule isn't crazy. The teacher just needs to be open to exceptions.
Start throwing those tomatoes... |
It’s not crazy that someone can’t have a drink when they want one? Does anyone restrict your drinking at work? What exactly is the life skill being learned here?
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Thu, Sep 15 2022, 11:42 am
| amother DarkGray wrote: | Responsibility, time management, problem solving...
The girls know that now there is no drinking. So while they're doing their work they remember that if they want to drink, now's the time.
The same thing happens by recess. |
So if a girl is hungry, thirst, has to go to the bathroom, and wants to be active during recess (which is not a long enough time for all those things, by the way) she’s just s-o-l? Seriously….this is a kid we are talking about.
Also, no answer about whether someone restricts your bathroom and/or drinking abilities at work.
I don’t think not allowing children to not have a drink is teaching them time management skills, or anything else you mentioned.
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Thu, Sep 15 2022, 12:21 pm
| amother DarkGray wrote: | Responsibility, time management, problem solving...
The girls know that now there is no drinking. So while they're doing their work they remember that if they want to drink, now's the time.
The same thing happens by recess. |
How to learn responsibility: child will pack her water bottle if she wants to have free access to water. If she forgets, she will have to manage with the water fountain.
How to learn time management: Child has to remember to pack it every day before school.
How to learn problem solving: Child will have to pack a spill-proof water bottle, and if it should leak, child will have to problem solve a way to clean up any water and/or replace any papers which got wet as needed.
There, I did it for you but in a manner which is not authoritarian and purposeless and recognizes that children are humans who each have their unique needs and preferences.
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Thu, Sep 15 2022, 12:21 pm
| amother DarkGray wrote: | I let my students drink.
I let my students leave to the bathroom.
My students drink during quiet work.
Since I work as a teacher, no, I don't drink during class and I don't leave for the bathroom either. |
Is that a restriction coming from your boss, or is it self imposed?
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Thu, Sep 15 2022, 12:30 pm
| amother Melon wrote: | We weren't allowed to drink in class when we were in elementary (I don't remember about high school) unless it was a hot day or we had permission and I'm not traumatized from it . I think on hot days they were more lenient or we could ask permission, no one sat there dehydrating but we didn't sit there drinking all lesson either....
It can cause interruptions to the lesson when everyone has to go out and get a drink and then everyone needs the bathroom, imagine if you were the teacher. |
This is what I was talking about in terms of learning to be empathetic.
Empathy: the ability to understand and share the feelings of another.
Please recognize that there are people who are not you and who have different experiences and needs. Understand that, and stop thinking that something that worked for you is true for everyone else.
No one should need to interrupt the teacher to go out and get a drink. That's the reason a water bottle is needed. Drink as needed and move on with your life. Bathroom does not have to be a disruption. Kid needs to get up and go, they can go take a pass off the wall and go quietly. If the pass is gone, it means they have to wait. We had a system like this and it worked well. I think there were 2 passes for girls and 2 for boys. Make a dongle with each child's name, and the child replaces the bathroom pass with their name dongle so the teacher knows where everyone is... it's simple and easy to meet a child's need. A child can have the right to go to the bathroom as needed in a quiet and undisruptive way.
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