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amother




OP
 

Post Mon, Jan 23 2023, 9:58 pm
Why do people think
writing like this
turns ordinary prose
into poetry?
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imasinger




 
 
 
 

Post Mon, Jan 23 2023, 10:12 pm
I'm enough of a pedagogue to want to agree.

However, not all poetry has to rhyme; free verse is a legitimate form.

But IMNSVHO, it is easier to call poetry when thought has been given to rhythm and meter, alliteration, imagery, overall form/message, and perhaps most relevant, emotional impact.

A random sentence, broken into pieces, doesn't quite qualify.

Most people here who try their hand at free verse are expressing a strong emotion. If it's expressive enough to evoke emotion in a reader, and worded well, I think it counts as poetry.
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wifeandmore




 
 
 
 

Post Mon, Jan 23 2023, 10:12 pm
This is a major
Issue
In frum
Society.

I don't know.
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amother




Pearl
 

Post Mon, Jan 23 2023, 10:14 pm
amother OP wrote:
Why do people think
writing like this
turns ordinary prose
into poetry?


In my life I've learned
Many people do strange things
Ignore and move on

- untitled haiku by amother
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mom_13




 
 
 
 

Post Mon, Jan 23 2023, 10:21 pm
This isn't a concern for the frum world only and I'll respond what I think but don't hold it against me
Because
Putting a set amount of words
On a line
Automatically
Makes you pause

This
Causes the reader
To stop at points
Where the writer
Wishes to create
Inflection
Reflection
A lull
In time
Sometimes
It will rhyme
But otherwise
It will be akin
To a beat
Giving you a sense
Of how to tap
Your feet

If
You still feel
Unsettled
Unsure
Google
Will be there
Its search bar
Wide as your screen
Waiting
For the questions
That pop into
Your head
Filling you
With
Existential dread



(Sidebar: this may not have answered your question, but as someone that used to write creatively and have had to shelve that hobby as life got busy, thanks for the opportunity! )
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amother




Pearl
 

Post Mon, Jan 23 2023, 10:24 pm
There once was amother who was feeling
Her life's circumstance had her reeling
As she wrote bit by bit
Hitting the 'enter' key in a fit
She realized it helped with her healing.
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amother




DarkRed
 

Post Mon, Jan 23 2023, 10:25 pm
It also bothers me when people
Try to write a rhyming poem (that part’s fine)
But it doesn’t actually make sense
And it doesn’t actually rhyme

It makes me want
To revoke
The poetic license
Of these folks
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amother




OP
 

Post Mon, Jan 23 2023, 10:26 pm
amother Pearl wrote:
There once was amother who was feeling
Her life circumstances had her reeling
As she wrote bit by bit
Hitting the 'enter' key in a fit
She realized it helped with her healing.


Thank you, I like that!
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mom_13




 
 
 
 

Post Mon, Jan 23 2023, 10:28 pm
amother Pearl wrote:
There once was amother who was feeling
Her life's circumstance had her reeling
As she wrote bit by bit
Hitting the 'enter' key in a fit
She realized it helped with her healing.


This explanation
Is divine
Short and sweet
Yet still in rhyme


(I better get off this thread before I spend way too much time here)
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amother




Valerian
 

Post Mon, Jan 23 2023, 10:37 pm
Yes
I cannot stand those run on, choppy sentences that are considered a poem
And are even published in magazines! I just dont get it

Signed, a girl who likes to consider herself a poet but never writes 'free verse' poems
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hodeez




 
 
 
 

Post Mon, Jan 23 2023, 10:43 pm
be
cause
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amother




Valerian
 

Post Mon, Jan 23 2023, 10:44 pm
hodeez wrote:
be
cause

LOL
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gr82no




 
 
 
 

Post Mon, Jan 23 2023, 10:58 pm
Op I agree with you! I was considering starting a thread saying the same but didn’t have the patience.
I usually don’t read stuff when it’s written like that for some reason it’s very hard for me to read it. )I skipped a lot of this thread)
But I also don’t like when the person writes a to. Without hitting enter even once.
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amother




Lemonlime
 

Post Mon, Jan 23 2023, 11:20 pm
I only write free verse these days. When I was younger I’d do more rhyme.
I find that when I want to express strong emotion free verse serves me best. You don’t have to like or understand it. Move on.
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amother




Violet
 

Post Mon, Jan 23 2023, 11:26 pm
hodeez wrote:
be
cause


Sorry if it's off topic, but you reminded me of the time when I was shopping in a store and an African-American woman grew impatient with her misbehaving toddler, until she called out: "I got 2 words for you: Be have!" LOL
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amother




DarkGray
 

Post Mon, Jan 23 2023, 11:37 pm
I don't know
what's up
with
all the blank verse.

At least you can
ignore the empty space
and
just
read it as prose.

Better than the times
You try for a rhyme
Because awful verse
Is even worse

Seriously, I don't know why people think poetry is necessarily better than prose. Whenever I see someone posting here that she needs a rhyming poem, I cringe. You're an adult. Save the rhymes for Purim.
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tigerwife




 
 
 
 

Post Mon, Jan 23 2023, 11:41 pm
In my humblest opinion,
A poem need not rhyme
But if there is no rhythm,
A poem it is not
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LiLIsraeli




 
 
 
 

Post Mon, Jan 23 2023, 11:49 pm
amother Violet wrote:
Sorry if it's off topic, but you reminded me of the time when I was shopping in a store and an African-American woman grew impatient with her misbehaving toddler, until she called out: "I got 2 words for you: Be have!" LOL


I say this to my kids sometimes LOL
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WhatFor




 
 
 
 

Post Tue, Jan 24 2023, 12:02 am
imasinger wrote:
I'm enough of a pedagogue to want to agree.

However, not all poetry has to rhyme; free verse is a legitimate form.

But IMNSVHO, it is easier to call poetry when thought has been given to rhythm and meter, alliteration, imagery, overall form/message, and perhaps most relevant, emotional impact.

A random sentence, broken into pieces, doesn't quite qualify.

Most people here who try their hand at free verse are expressing a strong emotion. If it's expressive enough to evoke emotion in a reader, and worded well, I think it counts as poetry.


Meanwhile, when I saw the bolded, it read as a Haiku:

A random sentence
broken into pieces
doesn't qualify

(Granted, I removed a word from the last line and the middle line is a syllable short, but still)
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amother




Olive
 

Post Tue, Jan 24 2023, 12:10 am
I was once young, and immature at the time
I thought all poems just had to rhyme.
Sentences I'd rearrange
Even if they sounded strange
Some lines terribly overwhelmingly long holding court
Others short
Just to get the elusive rhyming word to the right spot
Or not.

Now I'm old and mellow.
Though I hear your point
I do find my brain mentally pausing
Holding space
At the end of each line.
And sometimes I need it.
To let the words sink in
Calmly
Peacefully
Slowing me down
So I don't gobble down the paragraph
Missing the subtlety and the grace.

You don't have to like it.
I'm not always in that space
But sometimes I am.
And I like it,
That freedom to express myself
Knowing that others
Are breathing along with me.
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