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BrisketBoss
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When I have the time, I like to read the Hebrew and refer to the English to confirm or when I get stuck or just to see what choice they made. I like best to have several chumashim open so I can get the benefit of several different translations and notes (including JPS).
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Elfrida
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Wed, Jan 25 2023, 12:57 pm
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I normally read the parsha after candle lighting on Friday. Living in Israel has enabled me to develop fairly fluent Hebrew, so I don't normally use translations. If anything catches my attention, I'll look at Rashi, or other mefarshim. If there's anything I want to go I to further, I'll sometimes do that on Shabbos afternoon.
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BrisketBoss
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Wed, Jan 25 2023, 7:05 pm
| amother Sand wrote: | | This is unbelievable! Being that I am married to a ball korei that leins since his bar mizvah (approx 18 years) I'm blown away by the fact that a woman can lein! Mind sharing details of how this came about? |
I can lein as well. I grew up in the Conservative movement. I found it easy to learn and enjoyable to do. I leined one of the Yamim Noraim haftorahs a few times in front of my shul kehilla as a teenage girl. Memories!
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Thu, Jan 26 2023, 1:24 am
| amother Sand wrote: | | This is unbelievable! Being that I am married to a ball korei that leins since his bar mizvah (approx 18 years) I'm blown away by the fact that a woman can lein! Mind sharing details of how this came about? |
A friend of mine had joined a local women's davening group that met every Shabbat Mevorchim. I went with her once when I was eating at her house, and when they leined, I realized that despite being an Orthodox Jewish woman and attending Orthodox schools, I had never before seen the inside of a sefer Torah up close. Conservative women were more familiar with a ST than I was. Shocking and pathetic.
I loved the way the women in the tefillah group leined. Many men mumble, swallow half the words, or mute the trope into a vague singsong that resembles nothing so much as the moans of an old refrigerator's dying motor. These women not only pronounced every letter of every word so clearly they could have moonlighted as pronouncers at the National Spelling Bee, they really sang the parashah. Who even knew that the trope is supposed to be melodic?
They needed more people to volunteer to lein. Count me in, I said. I didn't know how but thought that if every runny-nosed 12-1/2 year-old boy can learn how to lein, surely a motivated, intelligent 20-something woman who isn't entirely tone deaf can, too. So with a tape and a book, I set to work. The first time I leined only a few pesukim, but the satisfaction and the feeling of power and connection to the text was amazing. Plus it felt so good to know that those strange squiggles weren't insect tracks but a musical notation-come-punctuation.
Today there are electronic aids to learning how to lein. Programs let you choose different fonts, voices, speeds, accents, and nuschaot, as well as highlight words, phrases, pesukim or entire aliyot in an array of different colors. When I started, the most hi-tech you got was a cassette tape player.
ETA for the benefit of the English experts here: I "typed notation-c.u.m-punctuation," and that's how it shows up in my pre-send view. As in Latin for "with." Evidently the system, which either has a dirty mind and didn't like this word, or doesn't recognize expressions from Latin, replaced it. Just wanted to make it clear that I do know how to spell.
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SwissAlps
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Thu, Jan 26 2023, 5:33 am
I learn Chumash with rashi every day according to how it's split up for aliyos. If I am very tired l I will just read it, but often I understand what I'm reading and ask my husband questions on it.
I am lubavitch and we call it learning chitas. I also say the Yom tehillim and learn a portion of Tanya every day.
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BrisketBoss
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Thu, Jan 26 2023, 10:38 am
| amother Cornsilk wrote: | A friend of mine had joined a local women's davening group that met every Shabbat Mevorchim. I went with her once when I was eating at her house, and when they leined, I realized that despite being an Orthodox Jewish woman and attending Orthodox schools, I had never before seen the inside of a sefer Torah up close. Conservative women were more familiar with a ST than I was. Shocking and pathetic.
I loved the way the women in the tefillah group leined. Many men mumble, swallow half the words, or mute the trope into a vague singsong that resembles nothing so much as the moans of an old refrigerator's dying motor. These women not only pronounced every letter of every word so clearly they could have moonlighted as pronouncers at the National Spelling Bee, they really sang the parashah. Who even knew that the trope is supposed to be melodic?
They needed more people to volunteer to lein. Count me in, I said. I didn't know how but thought that if every runny-nosed 12-1/2 year-old boy can learn how to lein, surely a motivated, intelligent 20-something woman who isn't entirely tone deaf can, too. So with a tape and a book, I set to work. The first time I leined only a few pesukim, but the satisfaction and the feeling of power and connection to the text was amazing. Plus it felt so good to know that those strange squiggles weren't insect tracks but a musical notation-come-punctuation.
Today there are electronic aids to learning how to lein. Programs let you choose different fonts, voices, speeds, accents, and nuschaot, as well as highlight words, phrases, pesukim or entire aliyot in an array of different colors. When I started, the most hi-tech you got was a cassette tape player.
ETA for the benefit of the English experts here: I "typed notation-c.u.m-punctuation," and that's how it shows up in my pre-send view. As in Latin for "with." Evidently the system, which either has a dirty mind and didn't like this word, or doesn't recognize expressions from Latin, replaced it. Just wanted to make it clear that I do know how to spell. |
Yess you're so right about the mumbling and rushing! Very different experience. In particular there's a Chassidishe shtiebel I've been to where I couldn't follow leining for the life of me, just too speedy.
I said before I used to lein a haftorah for a lot of people--I remember my sister specially requesting that I not rush through the brachos after it like the bar mitzvah kids do.
Of course, all this may contribute to how late davening ends at that shul. :- )
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