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Sun, Mar 26 2023, 4:44 pm
amother Brunette wrote: | I'm not seeing the big deal, there are so many klp products out there and if not kitniyos or foods that aren't actually chometz work just fine.
Dear fellow playgroup morahs, like I said upthread, parents cannot possibly understand how a playgroup must run, why the details are so important. Never mind, if we walked into their homes we probably wouldn't understand either. Do what you gotta do and try not to think poorly of people. |
There may be loads of KLP products, but picky toddlers that need their bread and pasta, won't touch that. I understand how a playgroup must run, but not allowing chometz this week, has nothing to do with running a playgroup. As the morah, you need to do what's best for the children and NOT what's easiest for you. If you gey paid to do something, you cannot put yourself first.
The playgroup is usually in a designated place in the house that's not used for something else. There's no reason why the kids can't have chometz in that room. They're not traipsing around the house with chometz. It's just in that room.
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Sun, Mar 26 2023, 8:47 pm
It's a little too soon. You can't expect the whole class to eat KLP now!
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amother


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Mon, Mar 27 2023, 12:37 am
amother Chicory wrote: | I love how the schools and morahs always pull the partner card when they want something from the parents. But that never works in reverse. If you want to pull the partner card, then please pull your weight in the partnership and be opened until Erev YT. That would be a partnership.
But you want the extra days off while your partner is still working up till or thru Erev Yom Tov. You expect your partner to pay for all the days off this month, even though your partner herself won't be getting paid on all her off days. And now you want the partner to put in the extra work instead of you.
That's not a partnership by any definition. That's a self-serving attitude where one is trying to take advantage of the others just because she can. As you've precisely demonstrated above. You're resorting to underhand threats about closing down, just so you can get, or rather force, parents to do your bidding out of fear.
Thanks for the excellent demonstration of what's so wrong in this setup. |
I actually don't charge for the days that I don't work. I'm in the UK, I charge way too little as it is, and I try very hard to bend over backwards to accommodate. But when you have toddlers, who are walking pieces of Chometz it's too hard to have them up until pesach!
You can't compare this to other jobs. My playgroup is in my main living room.
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Mon, Mar 27 2023, 10:40 am
amother OP wrote: | Op here!
Yes they can bring chometz for lunch!!! I might ask them not to for Thursday but wouldn't write a PSA on here , I would tell them directly!
It's not nice the whole year but much harder this week!
I had a child come in with a full bag of crackers(half of it was just crumbs) in his hands.
I've been a playgroup for the last 25 years, believe me I know I can make them sit down at the table, I can also put it in their backpack and deal with the tantrums too!
Wouldn't it be just nicer if parents would be considerate and not send a bag of cookies in kids hands?
I also know Morahs are paid and they even get a full 2 and a half days "vacation" before the other working mothers... doesn't mean parents can't be a little more careful this week!
If it doesn't apply to you, feel free to ignore I won't get offended I promise!
P.s: when I ask parents not to bring chametz for lunch, I usually make french fries and ask parents to send yogurt/cheese/apple sauce or cut up vegetables. |
Ok this makes much more sense and is understandable. I don’t think anyone anywhere wants that.
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Mon, Mar 27 2023, 11:11 am
amother OP wrote: | Just clarifying here:
1-My OP had nothing to do with bringing chametz for lunch. It was for not walking in with a bag of chametz in kid's hand.
2- I let my kids bring chametz for lunch,another morah wrote she doesn't let chametz this week. We're talking about a grand total of 4 lunches!! Your child can have pasta/bread for breakfast and supper. Nothing will happen if they have yogurt/fruits /vegetables and rice cakes!
How are you coming up with those numbers??? 12 days , 3 weeks....
I would love to know of all the ppl finding this unacceptable how many are making the whole pessach, hosting married kids and cooking for a big family. I'm guessing not too many!  |
I have a kid who lives on bread and pasta. As a toddler he wouldn’t touch yogurt or fruit or rice cakes. Those couple of pesachs were torture for him and for me, until he started eating other foods. I had a heter to give him kitniyos just so he would eat. You’re not talking about a grand total of four lunches, you’re talking about four MORE lunches. It’s not always so simple. And to those suggesting that if you can’t follow Morah’s “simple request” just keep your kid home….how does that work when mom and dad have to work?
I don’t have any kids in playgroup this year, and I don’t have any married kids. I am cooking and hosting the entire pesach though. Am I still allowed to have an opinion? Seriously, why does anyone’s pesach situation matter?
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Mon, Mar 27 2023, 11:15 am
amother Magenta wrote: | I fully understand the Morah who is asking that you stop sending in chometz. There are plenty of products that are KLP to send: cheese, yogurt, fruit, veggies. Just no bread and crackers and the like.
Look, my kids' schools are finished. The Morah is helping you all out and keeping classes going the least you can do is not send in Chametz. You are all busy cleaning, she would like to get some work done as well without worrying about crumbs again.
And those saying she is picking her convenience over the children and that she should do what's best for the children, not herself??? What exactly do you think she is doing to the children? Traumatizing them for her convenience??? She is trying to get a handle on cleaning her house for Pesach. Give the Morah a break! The kids will be just fine. Sheesh. |
My kids all have school through this entire week. Just because YOUR kids are finished doesn’t mean everyone else’s are too.
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Mon, Mar 27 2023, 1:47 pm
amother Magenta wrote: | I fully understand the Morah who is asking that you stop sending in chometz. There are plenty of products that are KLP to send: cheese, yogurt, fruit, veggies. Just no bread and crackers and the like.
Look, my kids' schools are finished. The Morah is helping you all out and keeping classes going the least you can do is not send in Chametz. You are all busy cleaning, she would like to get some work done as well without worrying about crumbs again.
And those saying she is picking her convenience over the children and that she should do what's best for the children, not herself??? What exactly do you think she is doing to the children? Traumatizing them for her convenience??? She is trying to get a handle on cleaning her house for Pesach. Give the Morah a break! The kids will be just fine. Sheesh. |
None of the schools in my community are finished. My elementary girls are in school till Wednesday, pre school till Monday. The morah can clean and keep her house pesachdik. And she can leave the playgroup room for the last to do. I imagine morah's sell their playgroup room. Adding and extra week on no chometz, is torture, and yes, may be traumatic for many picky eaters that the actual yom tov is hard enough on them. The kids will not be just fine, no way.
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