Can I eat non dairy food at pizza shop if I had chicken?

amother

Tue, May 02 2023, 3:26 pm

My relative is in town unexpectedly and my family decided to make an impromptu reunion at a pizza shop. I had chicken for lunch but I really don’t want to miss the reunion. Can I order a fish plate or salad?

amother

Maple

Tue, May 02 2023, 3:28 pm

Most casual pizza shops say that everything is bchezkas chalavi. Ask your rav

tichellady

Tue, May 02 2023, 4:27 pm

of course there is something pareve they can make for you. I don't see how a pareve salad would be an issue

amother

Brickred

Tue, May 02 2023, 4:34 pm

You have to ask them. I was at j2 with family from out of town and I was fleishig and I asked what’s parve. They said the French fries are milchigs and thecalzones. I think I had soup and sushi

LovesHashem

Tue, May 02 2023, 4:35 pm

tichellady wrote:

of course there is something pareve they can make for you. I don't see how a pareve salad would be an issue

If theres onions or garlic in the salad that was cut with a knife used for dairy that's a problem.

This is just one example of a bunch of possibilities.

zaq

Tue, May 02 2023, 4:56 pm

amother Winterberry wrote:

Have a bottle of water. You can still enjoy the company.

or a coke or juice. They may carry some packaged nosh as well.

amother

Burgundy

Tue, May 02 2023, 4:56 pm

LovesHashem wrote:

If theres onions or garlic in the salad that was cut with a knife used for dairy that's a problem.

This is just one example of a bunch of possibilities.

Are you sure about that? I believe it can't be eaten with meat but it doesn't make you milchigs.

amother

Olive

Tue, May 02 2023, 4:58 pm

amother Burgundy wrote:

Are you sure about that? I believe it can't be eaten with meat but it doesn't make you milchigs.

I learned that garlic or onion cut with a milchig knife has the same status as actual milchigs.

amother

Black

Tue, May 02 2023, 5:02 pm

If they have any fish dishes those are usually kept separate from any milchig.

realtalk

Tue, May 02 2023, 5:16 pm

Ask the mashgiach at the store, that's what they're there for.

As for the poster about j2 fries, they have a separate frier for allergies. You can request dairy free fries from there.

amother

Chartreuse

Tue, May 02 2023, 5:19 pm

ra_mom wrote:

Some pizza stores use milk in their dough.

. Given that pizza is generally covered with cheese, and cheeseless pizza is baked in the same oven, the status of the dough is immaterial. The pizza or calzone or anything they heat in the pizza oven is going to be incontrovertibly milchik.

amother

Hyacinth

Tue, May 02 2023, 5:20 pm

amother Olive wrote:

I learned that garlic or onion cut with a milchig knife has the same status as actual milchigs.

It has the same status as something cooked in a milchig pot.
But I'm pretty sure that in the 6 hours, you are allowed to eat food that was cooked in a clean milchig pot.

Hashem_Yaazor

Tue, May 02 2023, 5:22 pm

DE is not the same thing as D.
Blios are not the same as mamashus.

amother

Peony

Tue, May 02 2023, 5:41 pm

LovesHashem wrote:

If theres onions or garlic in the salad that was cut with a knife used for dairy that's a problem.

This is just one example of a bunch of possibilities.

When someone says a milchig onion, as in cut with milchig knife, it doesn't mean the onion is actual milchigs. It's jusy dairy equipment. Meaning you can have it when you're still fleishig, but you can't have it with actual fleishigs.

amother

Salmon

Tue, May 02 2023, 5:51 pm

amother Peony wrote:

Actually, I am MO, but maybe you hold differently as there is a safek

Ask if they have anything pareve and if not, enjoy a soda.
Have fun with your family!

ra_mom

Tue, May 02 2023, 5:52 pm

amother Chartreuse wrote:

I know stores that have cheeseless pizza on milchig dough. They don't call it dairy free.
Everyone needs to ask at their specific establishment if they're looking for parve or dairy free.

LovesHashem

Wed, May 03 2023, 12:42 am

amother Hyacinth wrote:

It has the same status as something cooked in a milchig pot.
But I'm pretty sure that in the 6 hours, you are allowed to eat food that was cooked in a clean milchig pot.

You are assuming they are making sure that the knife was cleaned in between dishes and there's no actual cheese on it, and when preparing the salad they made sure to wash their hands and make it not around the cheese. I'm sure people can have cheese in their salad so I'm sure it's nearby and on hand and wouldn't ve surprised if Small peices of shredded cheese made it's way around