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amother
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 Tue, Jun 06 2023, 11:50 am
For my boys
He always said it’s not halachically allowed. He said the beged is not supposed to touch the skin… we’ve been arguing about this for years-
Anyway, I finally convinced him that it should be ok for the little boys- especially in the summer. He agreed but only until bar mitzvah.
So now- I’m off to the store to buy my first pair and I have no idea what size to buy.
Do they run like regular tzitzis?
Let’s say my 10 year old is wearing size 4 tzitzis now- is that what size I should buy in undershirt tzitzis or do I buy his undershirt size?
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Iymnok
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Tue, Jun 06 2023, 11:52 am
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Bring an undershirt to the store and measure against the tzitzis. They may have a package opened for sizing.
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Highstrung
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Tue, Jun 06 2023, 11:54 am
| amother OP wrote: | For my boys
He always said it’s not halachically allowed. He said the beged is not supposed to touch the skin… we’ve been arguing about this for years-
Anyway, I finally convinced him that it should be ok for the little boys- especially in the summer. He agreed but only until bar mitzvah.
So now- I’m off to the store to buy my first pair and I have no idea what size to buy.
Do they run like regular tzitzis?
Let’s say my 10 year old is wearing size 4 tzitzis now- is that what size I should buy in undershirt tzitzis or do I buy his undershirt size? |
Buy whatever size undershirt he wears .
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amother
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Tue, Jun 06 2023, 11:57 am
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Why is this so important to you? Yes as your husband has said the beged shouldn't touch one's body. So what will happen if you teach your children that and they wear an undershirt with tzizis on top???
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boysrus
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Tue, Jun 06 2023, 12:10 pm
| amother OP wrote: | For my boys
He always said it’s not halachically allowed. He said the beged is not supposed to touch the skin… we’ve been arguing about this for years-
Anyway, I finally convinced him that it should be ok for the little boys- especially in the summer. He agreed but only until bar mitzvah.
So now- I’m off to the store to buy my first pair and I have no idea what size to buy.
Do they run like regular tzitzis?
Let’s say my 10 year old is wearing size 4 tzitzis now- is that what size I should buy in undershirt tzitzis or do I buy his undershirt size? |
the sizes need to be bigger. if he's wearing size 4 regular tzitzis now then he's probably not so tall or broad for his age. in that case I would recommend trying size 5 or 6. My son is younger than that but tall for his age, and wears size5 regular tzitzis and size 6 in undershirt tzitzis. We also do this only until bar mitzvah.
might be better to discuss isssues like this with a rav so husband and wife dont argue over the small stuff like this. good luck
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BatZion
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Tue, Jun 06 2023, 12:11 pm
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I'm pretty sure OP was asking for sizing advice and not for questions regarding her preferences for her children's tzitzit...
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giftedmom
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Tue, Jun 06 2023, 12:12 pm
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Buy the size of their undershirts. My boys won’t wear them past age 5-6.
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amother
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Tue, Jun 06 2023, 12:12 pm
My husband said they’re fine but whenever he vetoes something because of halacha I text the rav and ask my own shaila. It’s very easy to say assur assur assur all day.
Anyway the brand of undershirt tzitzis I buy has a size guide on the back.
It’s important to me because the other kind always looked like a mess on my kids.
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bsy
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Tue, Jun 06 2023, 12:16 pm
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My 4 year old wears size 4
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amother
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Tue, Jun 06 2023, 12:17 pm
| amother Kiwi wrote: | | Why is this so important to you? Yes as your husband has said the beged shouldn't touch one's body. So what will happen if you teach your children that and they wear an undershirt with tzizis on top??? |
My oldest son is 17. Yes, that’s what we’ve been doing until now.
In the summer the younger ones complain- not to dh but to me! I’ve told them it’s not what we do etc but when they go swimming they see their friends wearing undershirt tzitzis and they wish that’s what they had! Especially in the heat.
We are having a hard time with one of our older boys now. Unfortunately at times he goes around without any tzitzis. So I told dh I don’t think he should make a big deal about the undershirt tzitzis for the younger boys because look at xxx - he’s not even wearing tzitzis sometimes…
Maybe I will stress that it’s only for the summer since wearing an undershirt and tzitzis is technically better.
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amother
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Tue, Jun 06 2023, 12:18 pm
| boysrus wrote: | the sizes need to be bigger. if he's wearing size 4 regular tzitzis now then he's probably not so tall or broad for his age. in that case I would recommend trying size 5 or 6. My son is younger than that but tall for his age, and wears size5 regular tzitzis and size 6 in undershirt tzitzis. We also do this only until bar mitzvah.
might be better to discuss isssues like this with a rav so husband and wife dont argue over the small stuff like this. good luck |
Okay- thank you
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amother
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Tue, Jun 06 2023, 12:20 pm
| BatZion wrote: | | I'm pretty sure OP was asking for sizing advice and not for questions regarding her preferences for her children's tzitzit... |
Thanks! I sort of asked for it with the whole background I gave…
I probably should have just asked what size to buy.
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Rappel
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Tue, Jun 06 2023, 12:25 pm
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The ones in Israel seem to shrink two sizes in the wash.
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amother
Foxglove
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Tue, Jun 06 2023, 12:27 pm
How do you wash them so the strings don’t get ruined?
My son’s have pockets that the strings can go into, but won’t they fall right out in the wash?
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amother
Ecru
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Tue, Jun 06 2023, 12:31 pm
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Some of the undershirt tzitzis have a little pocket in the corner to stick the tzitzis into so it doesnt stick out of their shorts
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mommyhood
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Tue, Jun 06 2023, 12:42 pm
They run weird, ideally you should go to the store and see if they have one open for a sample. If not and you're not super far from the store buy one to try before you stock up.
The arm whole specifically on some are smaller than it should be for the size of the t shirt.
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amother
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Tue, Jun 06 2023, 12:43 pm
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We are chabad and I put undershirt tzitzes on all my (very sensory) little boys. Once they are older they are very happy to wear wool tzitzes on top of an undershirt like the other boys.
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mfb
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Tue, Jun 06 2023, 12:45 pm
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I asked my rov and was told not to have boys over chinuch she (9) wear them. I was asking cuz my 13 year old wanted to get them
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amother
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Tue, Jun 06 2023, 12:50 pm
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Also they are expensive ... don't forget super glue the knots.
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amother
Jetblack
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Tue, Jun 06 2023, 12:52 pm
| amother OP wrote: | Thanks! I sort of asked for it with the whole background I gave…
I probably should have just asked what size to buy. |
If you only want info on sizing, maybe change the thread title and just ask for sizing....
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