Are Aidel and Ettel the same name?

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amother

Tue, Sep 05 2023, 9:05 am

Are Aidel and Ettel the same name pronounced differently? Or are they different names? What does each mean?

amother

Lime

Tue, Sep 05 2023, 9:25 am

https://www.chabad.org/library.....s.htm

According to this Aidel is a derivative of Adina and Ettel is a derivative of Esther

tweety1

Tue, Sep 05 2023, 10:17 am

amother OP wrote:

Are Aidel and Ettel the same name pronounced differently? Or are they different names? What does each mean?

Not at all.

amother

Alyssum

Tue, Sep 05 2023, 10:42 am

Not at all the same name. Aidel is a Yiddish word that means refined. Adina is literally the translation of Aidel. Ettel is a Yiddish name that probably comes from a biblical name but in and of itself doesn’t mean anything. It might come from Esther, the way Masha might be from Miriam and Basha from Basya.

banana123

Tue, Sep 05 2023, 12:02 pm

No. Ettel is from Esther. Aidel, I don't know. Don't confuse Aidel with Odel, though. They're not the same name, either.

Iymnok

Tue, Sep 05 2023, 12:06 pm

banana123 wrote:

No. Ettel is from Esther. Aidel, I don't know. Don't confuse Aidel with Odel, though. They're not the same name, either.

What is Odel?

amother

Chicory

Tue, Sep 05 2023, 12:22 pm

Iymnok wrote:

What is Odel?

Udel would probably be the more accurate spelling.

ETA as in Bal Shem Tov's daughter.

Iymnok

Tue, Sep 05 2023, 12:30 pm

amother Chicory wrote:

Udel would probably be the more accurate spelling.

ETA as in Bal Shem Tov's daughter.

That I know, DH’s great(x6) grandmother. That’s why I want to know.

amother

Oleander

Wed, Sep 27 2023, 7:21 pm

A lady who named her daughter Odel told me it means Odeh La'kel - thanking Hashem.

amother

Alyssum

Wed, Sep 27 2023, 7:33 pm

amother Oleander wrote:

A lady who named her daughter Odel told me it means Odeh La'kel - thanking Hashem.

That sounds nice but it’s probably not true.
Yiddish speakers in Europe all had very different accents. If you’ve heard German, Austrian, Polish, Hungarian and Russian Yiddish you’ll know what I mean. That means Aidel, the Yiddish name meaning noble and refined, changed its vowel sound as it crossed borders. It turned into Idel, Odel and Udel.

amother

Crimson

Wed, Sep 27 2023, 8:04 pm

Someone I know wanted to name their kid after a grandmother. The matzeiva said Edel.
So they weren't sure if the name was Aidel or Ettel. They asked a big Rav/Posek who hails from the same community back in Europe.

His response: the name is Aidel and you can call her Adina.

They ended up naming her Aidel.

amother

Daffodil

Wed, Sep 27 2023, 9:40 pm

amother Alyssum wrote:

This was my assumption as well. My grandmother was Udel. But the names are spelled differently, Udel is אדל.

I recall reading that it derives from Yehudis. Also an acronym for Aish Das Lamo.

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