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Thu, Sep 28 2023, 1:42 am
A Lakewood thing? What does that even mean? Hakavod Hatov is only a Lakewood concept?
And spending $30 for someone who is hosting you for the whole YT sounds like a good deal to me especially if you’re in Kollel.
But I’d agree that giving a gift that the recipient would appreciate and not just bring the latest thing is nicer. (However, most of these places do accept exchanges.)
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keym


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Thu, Sep 28 2023, 7:45 am
It seems like theres 3 different parts to the conversation.
1) whether you should give gifts to parents/relatives when they host or help.
2) chipping in to gifts
3) what kind of gift to give.
It seems like youre mixing everything together for both your parents and inlaws and its complicating things.
Separate the pieces.
1) I think its 100% appropriate for children to give a gift to parents when theyre hosting.
2 and 3 get more complicated because it involves specific family dynamics.
I dont know your inlaws. But is it possible that youd feel better about the whole things if you opted out of the group thing and bought something that you think your mil would like- a book, her favorite candy, a challa cover, tablecloth, washing cup, I dont know. something.
And the same thing for your mother. Your family teased you because the gift you bought was not your mothers "thing". But if you bought something that is her "thing" she would appreciate it.
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Thu, Sep 28 2023, 8:15 am
I think it's very normal, especially for parents that slave away and cook and host their whole family for Yom Tov. Put yourself in their position- it's not necessarily the gift, but the acknowledgment that's important. Even if you help out with the cooking etc , it's still usually hard and draining to host . It doesn't have to be a major gift , but at least some appreciation etc ...
Also, $30 is really not a lot, considering how much it would cost me to make Yom Tov r even a meal on my own...
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imaima


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Thu, Sep 28 2023, 8:32 am
amother OP wrote: | So it seems most people think it’s normal and nice.
I’m wondering why the concept is so foreign to me. Could it be cultural? For example, I would never show up as a shabbos guest without a platter or gift or both, but I would never even think of bringing a gift or a platter to my mothers house for shabbos.
Some of my SILs even buy my MIL a $100+ gift after they move in after having a baby. I was so taken aback by this. My mother takes care of me amazingly me after having a baby but buying her a gift would never cross my mind. It seems so formal. And my mother would never expect one either.
Maybe I’m the odd one out. Or maybe it’s a Lakewood thing? |
She may not expect it but the mom for sure appreciates it and it’s amazing middos. It takes a ton of work to host after the birth.
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Thu, Sep 28 2023, 4:56 pm
amother OP wrote: | At least twice a year, my sisters in law suggest we all chip in for a fancy yom tov gift for my MIL (their mother). They usually suggest the latest trendy and pricey thing, like a Domani throw blanket, a Scentify, or the latest Waterdale creation. They never pressure anyone to chip in but I always feel dumb not doing so.
My MIL is really wonderful and hosts her many married kids happily and generously. But I’m just wondering if it’s normal for married kids to buy their parent/MIL a fancy gift a few times a year? Sukkos, Chanukah, pesach etc. Honestly it’s not only gifts for my MIL, they are CONSTANTLY suggesting we buy gifts for every graduation, large birthday milestone etc.
For context, my mother also wonderfully hosts me and my married siblings and we don’t usually buy her any sort of gift. There was one or two years we got her a Chanukah gift but that’s it.
I’m starting to wonder how they can even afford this since most of them are kollel families. Personally I can BH easily afford to chip in but it’s starting to annoy me. I feel like they just are buying into the latest marketing trend of whatever new product is out there. Like “oh everyone is giving this as a gift we should too”.
My background is JPF/heimish, my husbands family is very typical Lakewood yeshivish, so maybe this is a culture thing, or maybe it’s normal for people of all backgrounds and I just didn’t get the memo, which is very possible (I sometimes miss social cues like this). So am I the crazy one or are they? |
reminds me of my sisters in law and of my sister. they were constantly collecting money for gifts to my mother and father.
I never understood it.
To me it was like high school all over again.
boruch I turned 48 and they nicely stopped.
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Thu, Sep 28 2023, 6:40 pm
amother OP wrote: | At least twice a year, my sisters in law suggest we all chip in for a fancy yom tov gift for my MIL (their mother). They usually suggest the latest trendy and pricey thing, like a Domani throw blanket, a Scentify, or the latest Waterdale creation. They never pressure anyone to chip in but I always feel dumb not doing so.
My MIL is really wonderful and hosts her many married kids happily and generously. But I’m just wondering if it’s normal for married kids to buy their parent/MIL a fancy gift a few times a year? Sukkos, Chanukah, pesach etc. Honestly it’s not only gifts for my MIL, they are CONSTANTLY suggesting we buy gifts for every graduation, large birthday milestone etc.
For context, my mother also wonderfully hosts me and my married siblings and we don’t usually buy her any sort of gift. There was one or two years we got her a Chanukah gift but that’s it.
I’m starting to wonder how they can even afford this since most of them are kollel families. Personally I can BH easily afford to chip in but it’s starting to annoy me. I feel like they just are buying into the latest marketing trend of whatever new product is out there. Like “oh everyone is giving this as a gift we should too”.
My background is JPF/heimish, my husbands family is very typical Lakewood yeshivish, so maybe this is a culture thing, or maybe it’s normal for people of all backgrounds and I just didn’t get the memo, which is very possible (I sometimes miss social cues like this). So am I the crazy one or are they? | idk, did your parents buy you things ? Supported you? Bought you stuff you needed when you were small? My kids ware small, but I try my best to give them all they need. Maybe this SIl just loves her mom and wants to give her best and most choshuve? I'm very simple person, but for my friends who I respect ,I will get balebatish level gifts. Even if I find it stupid for me to use scientify or domani home thigs.to me sounds like she just loves her mother and this is her way of expressing it. That easy) why' is it weird to buy your parents stuff ? My 12 year old buys me gift when she goes to the store. For $1.29, but I am still very touched. .....
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