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| WhatFor wrote: | I didn't really get what was funny about it, to be honest. It felt like reading a normal ima thread. But to that aspect, I say different strokes for different folks.
However, I thought the message was not good. What the OP described was actually concerning. Barred from her bank account is a red flag. I found the ending to be in poor taste and potentially harmful to women who already struggle to talk about abusive relationships. The theme seemed to borrow from tropes of the hysterical woman, and a reasonable but confused man. I hope women in abusive relationships don't take the message that they shouldn't bother seeking support because people will just think they're dramatic and hysterical. |
Agree. This is what I was trying to say but you said it better. Based on what the op wrote, hwr situation was very concerning. In general, it’s always best to assume the op is telling the truth and give advice based on that . Otherwise , if we assume everyone is lying , then there is no point in responding at all.
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Sun, Oct 01 2023, 11:45 pm
| amother Kiwi wrote: | I read both articles. I didn't like riva's at all. I felt like it was in bad taste. I only like the husband's part. It was wrong to make it look like imamother.
Mam bear- I did enjoy your story. Was it true? |
of course it's true! it's the actual real saga of our sukkah!
and we still dont have a shlock! Which made decorating it this year in the mabul very hard!
Bh the baby we finally had in the story JUST TURNED 18!!!!! MY STOMACH IS TURNING AT THE NEXT STEP OMGGGG
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Mon, Oct 02 2023, 12:08 am
A lot of people on here appear to be overly offended by the article.
I think it's an excellent piece of satire!
Riva isn't trying to make fun of serious abuse problems at all! In fact, just the opposite! The article showing that how people attribute serious abuse factors to minor, typical, marriage dilemmas.
Abuse is a serious thing and the article is showing that not every marriage dilemma should be panicked over. Save the panic for the REAL problems.
Riva's intention is not to ridicule serious issues related to abuse at all. On the contrary, the article highlights how people sometimes attribute major abuse characteristics to minor and common marital problems.
Abuse is a profoundly grave matter, and the article emphasizes that not every marital issue warrants a panic. Reserve the panic for genuine problems.
(BTW, I myself am an abuse survivor, having endured both physical and verbal abuse for over a decade, including during my childhood when Child Protective Services (CPS) were involved with my parents.
Given my personal experience, I actually appreciate this article because it underscores a crucial point: abuse is a significant issue, and we should not label trivial matters like budget-cutting on yogurt or instructing a child to clean their room as abuse.)
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I loved it! Smiled all the way through!
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Mon, Oct 02 2023, 12:33 am
| amother Scarlet wrote: | A lot of people on here appear to be overly offended by the article.
I think it's an excellent piece of satire!
Riva isn't trying to make fun of serious abuse problems at all! In fact, just the opposite! The article showing that how people attribute serious abuse factors to minor, typical, marriage dilemmas.
Abuse is a serious thing and the article is showing that not every marriage dilemma should be panicked over. Save the panic for the REAL problems.
Riva's intention is not to ridicule serious issues related to abuse at all. On the contrary, the article highlights how people sometimes attribute major abuse characteristics to minor and common marital problems.
Abuse is a profoundly grave matter, and the article emphasizes that not every marital issue warrants a panic. Reserve the panic for genuine problems.
(BTW, I myself am an abuse survivor, having endured both physical and verbal abuse for over a decade, including during my childhood when Child Protective Services (CPS) were involved with my parents.
Given my personal experience, I actually appreciate this article because it underscores a crucial point: abuse is a significant issue, and we should not label trivial matters like budget-cutting on yogurt or instructing a child to clean their room as abuse.) |
Satire is usually taking a real situation but showing it in a more ludicrous light so that it's funny. I didn't see the satire in this. If the thread was entitled "I spent 1000 dollars on knee socks!" I also wouldn't consider that satire. Because an ima actually started a thread to the effect of "I spent 1000 on tights!" It's not adding anything new. It's literally just repeating in the same context, but in a mocking way. That's not satire. But as I said, I don't even care about that. Al taam vereyach and so on.
I find it irresponsible at best to try to make a joke about a situation in which a woman might reasonably be abused by her spouse. There was no explanation for why this woman was banned from her bank account, among other things. The "moral" of the story seemed to be that women are hysterical and men are just confused victims. As mommy3b2c pointed out, if the op was just lying, then there was some other sad dysfunction going on that the story seemed to dismiss.
I think there are more people being abused and not speaking up about it than there are people making false claims. And this article can send a message to victims that they are actually overreacting when they're actually being abused, or that no one will believe them if they speak out, because their DH will just act all innocent to his friends.
I can't speak to Riva's intentions. It's really easy for me to assume that she meant no harm and this was just misguided. I understand she's a real person and I don't mean to pile on her as an individual. But I do think that others should think twice before writing or posting something that parodies women describing abuse as hysterical.
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Mon, Oct 02 2023, 12:48 am
| Mama Bear wrote: | of course it's true! it's the actual real saga of our sukkah!
and we still dont have a shlock! Which made decorating it this year in the mabul very hard!
Bh the baby we finally had in the story JUST TURNED 18!!!!! MY STOMACH IS TURNING AT THE NEXT STEP OMGGGG |
Wow!! Time sure flies! I really loved your article. It was a wholesome cozy feel good story of a sukkah situation!
I can’t find the other article. Was it in the aim? So confused. For kids? Why?
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Mon, Oct 02 2023, 12:50 am
Amother Maroon, I've been published many times before, in many magazines under many different psuedonyms.
I actually havent had anything in print since 2019 so I'm pretty excited to be back in print. I really really should write more.
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Mon, Oct 02 2023, 1:53 am
| WhatFor wrote: | Satire is usually taking a real situation but showing it in a more ludicrous light so that it's funny. I didn't see the satire in this. If the thread was entitled "I spent 1000 dollars on knee socks!" I also wouldn't consider that satire. Because an ima actually started a thread to the effect of "I spent 1000 on tights!" It's not adding anything new. It's literally just repeating in the same context, but in a mocking way. That's not satire. But as I said, I don't even care about that. Al taam vereyach and so on.
I find it irresponsible at best to try to make a joke about a situation in which a woman might reasonably be abused by her spouse. There was no explanation for why this woman was banned from her bank account, among other things. The "moral" of the story seemed to be that women are hysterical and men are just confused victims. As mommy3b2c pointed out, if the op was just lying, then there was some other sad dysfunction going on that the story seemed to dismiss.
I think there are more people being abused and not speaking up about it than there are people making false claims. And this article can send a message to victims that they are actually overreacting when they're actually being abused, or that no one will believe them if they speak out, because their DH will just act all innocent to his friends.
I can't speak to Riva's intentions. It's really easy for me to assume that she meant no harm and this was just misguided. I understand she's a real person and I don't mean to pile on her as an individual. But I do think that others should think twice before writing or posting something that parodies women describing abuse as hysterical. |
I agree completely, especially with the bolded.
A satire of serious issues from Imamother is in poor taste.
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The yogurt thread here was about a teen or adult child who ate an entire large tub of yogurt every day, and father said it's too expensive and not in their budget. Mom was in dilema to buy it for him in grocery weekly or not? Should he pay for it himself? A whole thing started if yogurt is considered a healthy necessity or is it a luxury?
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