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Motek




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Feb 16 2006, 2:47 pm
what would remaining oberland entail specifically - could you give some examples?

who are the rebbeim who teach in these yeshivos - oberland?
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Post Thu, Feb 16 2006, 2:57 pm
I need to do some more research on this, but I think a very simple explanation as to what being "Chaseedish" is, is that the Rebbes who transplanted their kehillos from Poland and Hungary after the Holocaust, worked with their kehillos to strengthen Yiddishkeit by way of reinforcing the yesodos: Shem, Lashon, Malbush. This does not in any way diminish adherence to mitzvos and learning, but these fundamentals were always seen as barriers between Jews and gentiles which helped Yiddishkeit be strengthened from WITHIN, and ensured that the next generation would always have an entire mesorah to pass down to the next one.

For example, take Shemiras Halashon. We cannot know ultimately which individual is more chashuv by Hashem, but take two scenarios: A woman who is extremely scrupulous about her speech, but does not dress tznius, and a woman who dresses very tznius, yet has occasional gossip lapses. Even though the woman who speaks Lashon Hara transgresses a serious lav each time, she is still a "frum" Jew, in that she is likely to still pass on a strong feeling for Yiddishkeit onto her children. Whereas with the woman who practices refined speech yet doesn't dress tznius, her children's commitment to Yiddishkeit is far more likely to be at risk.

While speaking Lashon Hara is an actual aveirah delineated in the Torah, and speaking Yiddish and dressing "aidel" may be more vaguely delineated, these fundamentals of Yiddishkeit, more than just following the mitzvos in the Torah, are what help keep entire communities blossoming and growing in Yiddishkeit.

This is not to say that other communities ignored Shem Lashon Malbush, just that Chaseedish communities placed a very strong stress on them and saw them as one of the most vital elements in keeping the mesorah alive without it being watered down by American/Western values. This also extends to the strong stress on minhagim: if your parents did it, you do it too, and your children and grandchildren do it too. And I'm afraid it extends to boring Shabbos Menus as well. Smile (though we do have free rein with dessert!)
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