The dif. between PPL and ANIMALS

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chocolate moose

Thu, Jan 18 2007, 2:19 pm

The rabbi today said that the difference is that ppl know that there is a Creator.

Can you think of others?

chaimsmom

Thu, Jan 18 2007, 2:27 pm

People understand the concepts of right and wrong and can make moral decisions (or at least they should be able to). When I carelessly leave the cake I baked for Shabbos on the counter and my dog eats it, I don't get angry at the dog because she's doing what's natural for a dog. On the other hand, if my son or husband touch they cake, they are in big trouble.

shalhevet

Thu, Jan 18 2007, 2:30 pm

Onkelos explains that the difference is that people can speak.

brooklyn

Thu, Jan 18 2007, 2:32 pm

Animals can communicate with each other.

shalhevet

Thu, Jan 18 2007, 2:35 pm

brooklyn wrote:

Animals can communicate with each other.

It is not on the same level at all. Speech is the sign of our neshoma inside of us. When the neshomo leaves a person he can no longer speak.

You can not compare an animal communicating with another that it has found food to a person telling their innermost thoughts, poetry, Torah secrets etc.

Mitzvahmom

Thu, Jan 18 2007, 2:41 pm

Rabbi Bolton has a cute song about animals..

makes me laugh, and agree with alot of what he says..

"A lion's in a cage because he cannot control his rage. He has to know that he's the king of all. If you cannot control your anger, then maybe u should go live in a jungle or a zoo."

something like that..

brooklyn

Thu, Jan 18 2007, 2:48 pm

What I was trying to say is that I think it is more that just the fact that people can speak. More along the lines of what was said earlier, knowing right from wrong and being able to make a conscious decision about things. You can train certain birds to speak. By that logic would a mute be considered a person or an animal?

mumoo

Thu, Jan 18 2007, 2:59 pm

not just the knowledge of what is right/wrong but the ability to choose between

chocolate moose

Thu, Jan 18 2007, 3:07 pm

Very nice, keep 'em coming!

withhumor

Thu, Jan 18 2007, 6:12 pm

Yes, I learned three differences in school. One that we can speak (dibur), two we can choose right and wrong (bechurah) and three. Animals do not have a yetzer hora.

I’m unsure about the whole creator thing, the birds sing to Hashem, so I think that’s out, no?

Also, both animals and children make all over the house but for some reason we hate pooper-scooping after the kids, why is that! (coming from a mother who just toilet trained her baby!)

mumoo

Thu, Jan 18 2007, 8:05 pm

humans can hate and be mean to each other
humans can love and plan parties for each other

bandcm

Thu, Jan 18 2007, 8:46 pm

Mitzvahmom wrote:

I once ate at my uncle´s and Tuvia Bolton popped in, my uncle was his rosh yeshiva, he sang that song - the entire sukka was on the floor! Except my uncle - he thought everyone was crazy!
Tuvia Bolton made the whole table chant the chorus, ``Ìn the zoo, IN THE ZOO!``
Memories of Crown Heights...

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