Hechsherim for wine

silbergirl

Fri, Apr 24 2015, 9:37 am

Which hechsherim would you use on wine, which wouldnt you use?

OU
KF Kosher Federation London
Chug Chatam Sofer, Bnei Brak
Rav Garelik, Milano, Italy
Badatz Bet Yosef
Mordecai Zeckbach, Strasbourg
A.Y. Schwartz, Vienna
Weissmandl, Monsey

http://www.hechshers.info/shapes/1.htm

Please also describe your Hashkafa.
Thanks a lot. I am working in a wine store and need to know about what people commonly hold by re wine.

STovah

Sun, Apr 26 2015, 8:54 am

Not sure why the OK isn't on your list. There are a number of very good boutique wineries in Israel under the OK (probably for international marketing purposes) along with an Israeli hashgacha.

mille

Sun, Apr 26 2015, 9:03 am

I'll be quite honest, if it has a hechsher, any hechsher, I have not put any more thought into the matter than that.

Mrs Bissli

Mon, Apr 27 2015, 7:16 pm

You also forgot Paris Beth Din, Rabbin Rottenberg, Rabbin Frankfurter (Adath), Strasbourg Beth Din (they assign hechsherim on really wonderful French wine), possibly Lyonnaise BD. There's another Milan hechsher (Benilow?)

Personally I'm not too fussy about who gives hechsherim, but I would definitely want to see information on if the wine is mevushal or non-mevushal.

Ruchel

Tue, Apr 28 2015, 7:25 am

My husband has two good friends who work in wine. Both frum. One specializes on France (Eu?) and the other is more Israel and America. Lemme know if you want contact

silbergirl

Thu, Apr 30 2015, 9:21 am

Ah yeah, we have OK wines also. No Rabbanut wines as of now and most other hechsherim also not. Basically the ones described. We are looking to expand our selection. Thats why I'm asking Smile

Because here most ppl wont drink anything thats not Bedatz Eda HaChareidis or Weissmandl, New York or the Viennese hechsher (Rav Schwartz). If the wine only has an OU, some wont buy it. So I am looking for "unversally" accepted hechsherim. I know the ones that are considered reliable for foodstuff but not necessarily for wine, as ppl tend to be even more machmir with wine in some instances.

imasoftov

Thu, Apr 30 2015, 11:56 am

I'm curious what issues the more stringent hechsherim address with wine. Additives? Wine left where non-Jews can touch it? Insufficiently frum Jews allowed to handle it?

silbergirl

Sun, May 10 2015, 9:58 am

I think its mainly politics. For sure nothing affecting halacha as severely as trayfening up the wine. Its like with food or shechita. Your community prefers a certain way, then thats where you hold by...

samantha87

Sun, May 10 2015, 10:43 am

imasoftov wrote:

Israeli Rabbanut isn't even on your radar?

Rabbanut is generally irrelevant, as least in the U.S., because all the Israelly wine also had a US hashgacha or two. Usually ou or ok, sometimes weismandl or square. The only exception I've seen is otzar beit din wine, which op's crowd probably won't go for. It doesn't matter that the local rabbanut does all the work, the U.S. consumer buys based on ou and ok.

OP: also add Feigelstock to your list for cheap South American wines.

ally

Sun, May 10 2015, 3:49 pm

samantha87 wrote:

Otzar Bet Din can only be consumed in Israel.
Kosher stores should not be importing it.

samantha87

Sun, May 10 2015, 4:45 pm

ally wrote:

Otzar Bet Din can only be consumed in Israel.
Kosher stores should not be importing it.

Last shmittah I saw it in N.Y. wine shops with large kosher selections.