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Which boys schools do / don't push medicating?



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amother
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Post Tue, Jun 23 2015, 8:14 pm
Which schools push medicating a child with adhd or other learning or behavioral challenges?

Which schools do NOT push medicating, and will work with the child without requiring that medication is given?
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33055




 
 
    
 

Post Tue, Jun 23 2015, 8:46 pm
Where are you located?
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amother
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Post Tue, Jun 23 2015, 8:49 pm
Brooklyn NY area
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voira




 
 
    
 

Post Tue, Jun 23 2015, 9:17 pm
Not sure if you are referring to boys or girls but stolin and tiferes elimelech DO NOT push medication for ADHD and such.
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amother
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Post Thu, Jun 25 2015, 8:50 am
voira wrote:
Not sure if you are referring to boys or girls but stolin and tiferes elimelech DO NOT push medication for ADHD and such.


Thank you. Can you tell me, what is their method with dealing with children with behavioral, emotional difficulties or learning disabilities or Aspergers or ADHD? Do they work with these children? Would they accept these children?

Can anyone tell me the positions of elementary schools such as Mir, Chaim Berlin, Ahavas Torah, Ruach Chaim, YOB, Torah Vodaas, Veretzky, Yeshiva Ketana of Bensonhurst, Chofetz Chaim? How do they handle the above?

In particular, if parents do not want to medicate their child, what is the best school that would accept and work with their child?
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amother
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Post Thu, Jun 25 2015, 9:10 am
amother wrote:
Thank you. Can you tell me, what is their method with dealing with children with behavioral, emotional difficulties or learning disabilities or Aspergers or ADHD? Do they work with these children? Would they accept these children?

Can anyone tell me the positions of elementary schools such as Mir, Chaim Berlin, Ahavas Torah, Ruach Chaim, YOB, Torah Vodaas, Veretzky, Yeshiva Ketana of Bensonhurst, Chofetz Chaim? How do they handle the above?

In particular, if parents do not want to medicate their child, what is the best school that would accept and work with their child?

Special Ed schools specialize in this. The children are helped by professionals, there is individual attention, they deal with the behaviors and really teach the child how to deal with life. Schools like ohr beacon and the like.
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amother
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Post Thu, Jun 25 2015, 9:42 am
I am specifically asking about mainstream schools with mainstream classes that work with both regular children and those with adhd and such.
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amother
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Post Thu, Jun 25 2015, 1:29 pm
amother wrote:
Special Ed schools specialize in this. The children are helped by professionals, there is individual attention, they deal with the behaviors and really teach the child how to deal with life. Schools like ohr beacon and the like.


think twice before sending to a special ed school. and I'm a special ed teacher. special ed schools are the most restrictive environment and your child is thrown into a class where the social behaviors are not the norm for their peer group. Unless they are a danger to others or themselves or have severe, severe cognitive deficits, then I would say go with special ed. Most children with disabilities do much better in the regular school setting with additional special educational support on the side.
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amother
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Post Thu, Jun 25 2015, 2:55 pm
amother wrote:
think twice before sending to a special ed school. and I'm a special ed teacher. special ed schools are the most restrictive environment and your child is thrown into a class where the social behaviors are not the norm for their peer group. Unless they are a danger to others or themselves or have severe, severe cognitive deficits, then I would say go with special ed. Most children with disabilities do much better in the regular school setting with additional special educational support on the side.


Can you recommend a school that works well with children without pushing medicine? Thank you
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amother
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Post Thu, Jun 25 2015, 7:58 pm
amother wrote:
Can you recommend a school that works well with children without pushing medicine? Thank you


I'm not exactly sure anyone here can answer your question. But if you really don't want medication you should be a very proactive parent. Are you willing to get your child evaluated by the department of education so that he will be eligible for services through the city? Are you going to bring a behavior specialist into the school to help your child cope? help the teachers cope?This could be very expensive. Your questions should be: do the above schools allow therapists and service providers into their buildings? do they work hand-in-hand with the teachers? are they willing to work with a private behavioral therapist? Did you, yourself, research different behavioral techniques that could help your child? aRe you taking your child to therapy? If your child is physically hurting other children it may be time to seek medication in conjunction with therapy.
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yenny




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Jun 25 2015, 8:17 pm
I like what purple said
schools like to see parents involved, and not just say "I don't want to give meds" .you have to come with a plan and ask them for help. Ask " how can we make it work together and I want to hear your advice so that my son can have hatzlocha"
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amother
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Post Thu, Jun 25 2015, 8:30 pm
I have to be honest, though, if you walk in at a school interview saying your child has all these problems, chances are a school wont' take you. Is there any chance that the current school your child is in will allow you to do the above?
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animeme




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Jun 25 2015, 8:46 pm
amother wrote:
Special Ed schools specialize in this. The children are helped by professionals, there is individual attention, they deal with the behaviors and really teach the child how to deal with life. Schools like ohr beacon and the like.


Don't know Brooklyn schools, but many special ed schools push meds too, particularly for hyperactivity.
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amother
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Post Mon, Jul 06 2015, 4:59 pm
amother wrote:
I'm not exactly sure anyone here can answer your question. But if you really don't want medication you should be a very proactive parent. Are you willing to get your child evaluated by the department of education so that he will be eligible for services through the city? Are you going to bring a behavior specialist into the school to help your child cope? help the teachers cope?This could be very expensive. Your questions should be: do the above schools allow therapists and service providers into their buildings? do they work hand-in-hand with the teachers? are they willing to work with a private behavioral therapist? Did you, yourself, research different behavioral techniques that could help your child? aRe you taking your child to therapy?


He was evaluated by the department of education and is eligible for services through the city.

Please tell me about behavior specialists. Can you give me any names of behavior specialists or behavioral therapists?

What type of therapy are you suggesting? Which behaviors are you referring to?
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TwinsMommy




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Jul 06 2015, 5:11 pm
any school worth their salt working with the higher functioning special ed crowd either isn't allowed to push meds (public schools here, anyway), or SHOULDN'T even mention meds.

If your child's IEP isn't enough and it's clear that his IEP goals aren't being met, push for an FBA/ BIP written by someone (either through the county board of dd, or a BCBA with lots of behavioral experience) outside of the district. With our daughter we had her school write one. With our son we had our county board rep write one. Free for both. Worth the time and effort. The BIP will lay out exactly how the school should take data, etc.

Also you have to see what's best for your child. For some, an intervention specialist shared with other students is ideal. For some, a one to one aide is ideal. For some, pull out in a resource room is ideal. Working with your kid could mean different things depending on his need.
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