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Sun, Nov 26 2023, 7:49 pm
I just read the first. Do most hold that one may nott endanger himslef to save another? The three exceptions given do NOT include:
1. To save one's own children or
2. To save a group of people who are not prominent community leaders.
So a father with a pistol should not leave the mamad to try to.shoot terrorists who will try to break in and kill his children?
And a soldier should not intervene and put his life at risk, in a case where the terrorist was only threatening one other person, or a small group containing no major community leaders?
It seems like this halacha would make it nearly impossible for its followers to serve as police, soldiers, firemen, etc
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Rappel
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Sun, Nov 26 2023, 10:51 pm
jerusalem90 wrote: | I just read the first. Do most hold that one may nott endanger himslef to save another? The three exceptions given do NOT include:
1. To save one's own children or
2. To save a group of people who are not prominent community leaders.
So a father with a pistol should not leave the mamad to try to.shoot terrorists who will try to break in and kill his children?
And a soldier should not intervene and put his life at risk, in a case where the terrorist was only threatening one other person, or a small group containing no major community leaders?
It seems like this halacha would make it nearly impossible for its followers to serve as police, soldiers, firemen, etc |
So in the shiur I posted above, the Rav addresses that on two levels - halachot which determine the greatest pikuach nefesh, and the halachot which come into play when you're talking about the scale of a government, especially a government at war. Listen to the shiur, and then let's discuss
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Rappel
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Sun, Nov 26 2023, 10:52 pm
BrooklynBee wrote: | https://www.torahanytime.com/#/lectures?v=262286 |
Thank you. I'll listen to this later today, bli neder, to and then I can give you my thoughts
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Rappel
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Mon, Nov 27 2023, 2:49 pm
BrooklynBee wrote: | https://www.torahanytime.com/#/lectures?v=262286 |
TBH: the Rav seemed to be more into creating a "chap," than being clear. I didn't notice a chiddush that he brought in relative to the other shiur posted above, except for his inclusion of the analysis of the Athenian wise men's parallel. It's a novel interpretation for me, though it's not strictly speaking within the discussion of halacha.
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