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amother

Fri, Mar 22 2024, 8:33 am

Growing up in Pharaohs palace, and then he lived in Midyan- I don't even think there was a Minyan there!!
What do you think?

stillnewlywed

Fri, Mar 22 2024, 8:34 am

This was before Matan Torah

amother

Fri, Mar 22 2024, 8:35 am

I know but he also went up to heaven for 40 days, he definitely had no Minyan there!!

chanatron1000

Fri, Mar 22 2024, 8:35 am

The real question is, what hat did he wear?

Elfrida

Fri, Mar 22 2024, 8:35 am

There was also no concept of tefillah b'tzibbur before Matan Torah, and the concept of regular tefillah as we know it, only fully developed after churban bayit sheni.

amother

Peony

Fri, Mar 22 2024, 8:37 am

It’s a bit backwards to lower his medreiga to try to think he lived like us now. We are barely religious compared to his level. What’s up with these threads thinking we are remotely on the level of these people?

amother

Clear

Fri, Mar 22 2024, 8:38 am

I think OP's question was meant to be humorous in the spirit of Purim

Ema of 5

Fri, Mar 22 2024, 8:40 am

stillnewlywed wrote:

This was before Matan Torah

But the avos and imahos followed the Torah. What was Abraham teaching? What was Shem learning in yeshiva?

amother

Mintgreen

Fri, Mar 22 2024, 8:40 am

amother Peony wrote:

Thank you. This is what bothered me about this and the other thread. Chazal says that if the rishonim were like malachim then we are like people. If they were like people then we are like donkeys.
So by lowering the greatest people in the history of the world to gossip-like threads, we are making ourselves into something lower than donkeys as a byproduct
Our respect is really dwindling in this generation. These discussions should physically hurt us to utter these words (it hurts me to read them)

amother

Smokey

Fri, Mar 22 2024, 8:41 am

I think the question should be reversed.

Would Moshe and Esther think WE are religious?
Would they be confused by our weird uniforms and frum minhagim that were piled on over the years? Would Moshe ask, what happened to all the women? When looking at photos? Would Esther ask, what’s up with all the black clothing that frum women are wearing? And what is tights?

amother

Fri, Mar 22 2024, 8:42 am

amother Clear wrote:

I think OP's question was meant to be humorous in the spirit of Purim

Yes! It's a spin off the Esther thread... Can't Believe It

amother

Brass

Fri, Mar 22 2024, 8:43 am

Ema of 5 wrote:

But the avos and imahos followed the Torah. What was Abraham teaching? What was Shem learning in yeshiva?

The learnt Torah, and followed Torah. Chamishah Chumshei Torah did not exist in written form, rather as an understanding of the concepts. They studied how to become closer to Hashem, and how to glorify him in this world, not how to make potato kugel!

amother

Ivory

Fri, Mar 22 2024, 8:44 am

amother OP wrote:

Yes! It's a spin off the Esther thread... Can't Believe It

I am the OP of that thread. It was not meant in jest at all. I was completely serious. But thank you so much for making my question into a joke.

theoneandonly

Fri, Mar 22 2024, 8:55 am

chanatron1000 wrote:

The real question is, what hat did he wear?

I once heard a joke:
How do you know Moshe Rabbeinu wore a shtreimel?

He was Moshe Rabbeinu, of course he did!

Ema of 5

Fri, Mar 22 2024, 11:20 am

amother Brass wrote:

The questions were rhetorical. Obviously they learned Torah, and lived a life of Torah, but there was no Torah written down yet. They studied EVERYTHING orally, not just the oral Torah.