Finding the positive in everything

proudmom

Sat, Apr 09 2005, 9:15 pm

amother it will be my pleasure to talk to you.

mompete

Thu, Apr 14 2005, 6:04 pm

My father collapsed last year because of an undetected infection to his kidneys. Aparently his kidneys were not filtering out the toxins in his body and his body gave out. The doctors gave him 24 hours to live. B'H, he is alive and the head of the ICU pointed him out as the miracle of the year. He still has medical problems and as of right now is in the hospital with other problems. I"Y we are hopeful that he will heal completely and are davening non stop. The only person who can give life or take it away is Hashem. I'm not trying to give anyone false hope, I just feel that this is telling it like it is.
Since this has happened I have gotten to know my father in many ways. I am thankful for every minute that I have with him. And he is of every moment he has with me and my family.

Motek

Fri, Apr 15 2005, 11:52 am

proudmom wrote:

It is very hard in my situation to find positive things. Because right now there is no positive stuff to look at.

your situation is so very hard and I hope these other women who posted, can help you regarding your father

but there are positive things going on in your life that you can look at - like your cute kids and I'm sure other things you can think of

proudmom

Fri, Apr 15 2005, 1:19 pm

Motek, what I was talking about is in my father situations. BH other parts of my life there is a lot of positive things.

Motek

Fri, Apr 15 2005, 1:30 pm

oh okay, good to know!

supermom

Mon, Apr 25 2005, 11:53 am

proud if you don't keep up your faith no one can do it for you. here is a big shmushy hug and kiss from my computer to yours!! Banging head

I have no advice for you at this point in my life but think about it this way say thank Hashem that you are able to spend as much time with him as much as you like not like me that I am at the end of the world that if I am lucky once in a blue moon!! Crying

cherish the moments you have with him as much as you can. You see I already found something positive in all of this. Smile

okay not so positive but something Exploding anger

supermom

Mon, Apr 25 2005, 11:58 am

And with Hashems help he will be with us for many more healthy years together with our children and grandchildren. The only one that we can turn to is Hashem and if not Him than who else besides our Father in Heaven can we turn to. Hashem in his most mysterious ways knows that this is good for us but we have to try to be positive and if not then all will break loose. Maybe Hashem is trying to test us in a strange way to see our faith how strong is it. and if we hold on tight Hashem would bezrat Hashem change the "bad" that we are experiencing for the good. ((hug)) here is another hug for you proud and to all you woman out there that feel that they need one too. Crying

supermom

Mon, Apr 25 2005, 12:04 pm

deedee wrote:

there are not any words to describe watching my father withering away for 2 yrs. nobody should ever have that experience.
what I was trying to say was the good out of him being sick for 2 years was that we got to know him. as opposed to him being sick for a few mts or even passing away in his sleep-one day well one day dead. thank G-d I got to really know my father b-4 he did die!
did I make myself any clearer?

yeah that is something to look at in a positive way. but you know what forget about us for a second when Hashem makes a person suffer before they get better or rachmanis die Hashem cleans out their guf and neshama from anything bad that they have in them.

funny this site went from challah to death and sickness the more I read this thread the more tears keep on coming. thanks everyone sometimes hearing others you realize that you are not the only one that has these problems even though you know of a lot of cases but talking about it helps with people in your same situation.

Pearl

Tue, Apr 26 2005, 6:20 am

proud and super, and deedee, and all women facing really hard trials - may Hashem give you the strength and courage to deal with your anxiety, sadness etc.
I hope you will find comfort for example in places like this forum, for a tear and a smile to keep you going!

supermom

Thu, Apr 28 2005, 8:35 am

pearl you are included too ((hug)) to you too!!

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Pearl

Thu, Apr 28 2005, 8:41 am

well, thank you for that hug!

supermom

Thu, Apr 28 2005, 2:34 pm

how on earth did you understand that post I didn't even understand it myself and I wrote it shock

I fixed it and you are welcome if you need another well just ask and I will send it to you from my humble computer to yours. 8)

Pearl

Fri, Apr 29 2005, 4:02 am

it's much clearer now, but I did understand you the first time! what can I say, maybe we are a bit tuned in to eachother?
in any case, hugs are much appreciated, and here is one major hug for you (((((((((((((((((((supermom)))))))))))))))))))))!!

gut shabbos, and gut yomtov!

supermom

Mon, May 02 2005, 11:26 am

funny but thanks for the welcomed hug.

we already found a positive in our life all of us care to help eachother out. now that is something on a positive note no?

Pearl

Thu, Jun 16 2005, 10:57 am

didn't want to open a new topic etc, but wanted to post this, so here goes -
How We Live

By

Naomi Ragen

This is how we live: last week I went to a memorial service for
Eitan Newman, the young soldier blown up in
his tank last year as he patrolled the dangerous Philadelphi road that
separates Gaza from Egypt and weapons smugglers and terrorists.
Only a year ago, I paid a shiva call to his family. In the midst of
her grief, his mother, Sara, asked me to tell this e-mail list to
buy Israeli products, because the Israeli economy was hurting so
badly. I was humbled by her request, and passed it on to you, and
you responded with hundreds of heartfelt letters of condolence to
Sara and her family.

The memorial was held at Himmelfarb, a religious boys' high school
where my son went. It was packed with Eitan's family and friends,
so many young men and women, many of them married and wheeling baby
carriages. Those like myself, who had never met Eitan, spent the
evening getting to know him, in what was a celebration of his short,
beautiful life, a life filled with kindness and laughter and
learning and giving. I looked at the videos of him and his friends
--such a handsome, charming, clever boy. Beside me sat Esther
Waxman,a friend of Sara's, whose own soldier son was kidnapped and
murdered by Hamas terrorists. She had come to participate in an
evening that could not have been easy for her. She had come
to remember Eitan with love. Not a word of hatred or revenge or
politics was heard that evening. And we left feeling like family.

A few days later, I rode out to Gush Katif and spent an afternoon
speaking with Roz and Paul, friends who are farmers in Netzar
Chazani. They have eight kids, seven boys, five of whom are army
officers. I sat in the house they've built, saw the lettuce they
grow in sand that brings in so many export dollars, and spoke with
them about how their government is planning to throw them out of
their house and land come August in exchange for....nothing. They
are filled with faith that it won't happen. Filled with love and
forgiveness for their fellow Jews, who they think are mistaken.

Last night I attended a wedding. The bride was the beautiful young
daughter of friends. I didn't know much about the handsome groom.
The wedding was held in an elegant hotel. It was special. The
dancing was amazing. Then someone said to me:" I don't know how she
does it."
"Who?" I asked, puzzled.
"The mother of the groom. You
must know, her daughter and husband..last year, Cafe Hillel..."

I thought about it a minute, and then it dawned on me. The bride who
had been killed in a suicide bombing the night before her wedding,
along with her father, a well-known physician, who had run the emergency room at
Shaare Zedek, saving the lives of so many terror victims. And
now, a year later, another wedding. The bride's brother.

I looked around the room. Many of these people had no doubt
gathered the year before to attend his sister's wedding, and had
instead attended her funeral. And now they had gathered once again,
to celebrate with joy, to make the bride and groom joyful, to dance
and be happy.

I watched the groom's mother, girlish as a bride herself, as she
danced with the bride doing everything she could to make her happy.
I watched as the room swirled around them, everyone laughing,
rejoicing. And then I watched the young groom suddenly break into
the women's circle, taking his bride by the hands and dancing with
her as the room exploded with cheering, and clapping and happiness.

Whenever I think I can't go on one more day, that the cisterns of
grief are overflowing, ready to tip over and drown me, I never fail
to be touched by the extraordinary spirit of the people of Israel,
the most humane, giving, life-affirming people on the planet--
whatever sick propaganda you might have read to the contrary.

I know we are truly God's people. How else can you explain what
I've just told you? Our enemies will never win.
Because love is stronger than hate.
Joy is stronger than sorrow.
And those who love life are stronger than those who value death.
Our enemies think they will win because they are willing to die. But I know we
will win, because we are willing, despite everything we've been
through, to go on living joyful, meaningful lives that are full of
love. I don't know how it's possible, but everyday, every hour,
someone else shows me how it's done.

God bless them.
And God bless all of you who love the people of
Israel.

technic

Thu, Jun 16 2005, 11:03 am

pearl ty 4 sharing Wink

lucky

Thu, Jun 16 2005, 11:47 am

S/o I know lost a child yesterday.She is married 7 yrs. and has nebach burried 3 infants.(She has 3 adorable healthy kids too) Yet she is the strongest person ever. Can you imagine that she knew the baby won't live, yet did not say anything during the pregnancy , becase her sils were preg.?She did not want to shter their simcha.
I am having a hard time getting over it. So I'm sitting at my computer instead of cooking for shabbos. I just can't do anything. I' find myself walking from room to room aimlessly.
May her suffering be a kaporah for klal yiroel.

Pearl

Fri, Jun 17 2005, 3:47 am

technic, you're welcome Very Happy

lucky, that's so very very sad, I can't believe the strength of this woman. Crying

indeed may her suffering be kapparah for klal yisrael, and may she know no more suffering...

sarahd

Fri, Jun 17 2005, 6:41 am

Amen. May this be the last of the tzaros and the beginning of only simchos.

Pearl

Fri, Jun 17 2005, 6:46 am

omein!