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amother
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Post Thu, Sep 01 2016, 6:21 am
I just had to take my 1 yr old to the hospital (Hatzola took him)

It was scary because he had a fever -I gave him Tylenol but was okay. All, of a sudden, he was breathing very heavy as if he couldn't breathe.

Hospital says it is croup. I will take him to PCP, but I wanted to hear anyone's experience with this as we asked Dr. At hospital what to do if this happens again and he said come back.

Anyone have experience such that their children needed nebulizer treatment....even though Dr. Says its croup, this child had many incidents this past year when his lungs closed up and he needed nebulizer and constant PCP checkups to make sure his lungs are okay.

. I'm still not sure if he has asthma but I know dhs family has history of asthma and my two other children have allergies to penicillin/cefdinir.

. I had a feeling I would have to constantly go to the PCP this year for the breathing issue, but I thought I would at least have a "warning". Here, my son went from "0 to 100" in few hours meaning he was breathing fine then hours later he was in very bad state. But, this past winter, the problems were gradual and we were able to treat with nebulizer and frequent PCP visits.

. I'm not sure if my son has asthma. I think he does but can anyone share their experience with children's asthma, croup, or breathing problems.

. did you go to the hospital often or first treat with nebulizer?

Should I get a oximeter to measure his oxygen level?

Obviously, I know no one can predict what will happen but maybe someone can tell me how their chip was diagnosed with asthma etc.

. I'm really clueless (bh) as iv never experienced this but I did hear a neighborhood acquaintance from years ago telling my mom she had to take her asthmatic child to the hospital a lot. f
Thank you.
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amother
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Post Thu, Sep 01 2016, 6:30 am
Wheezing and croup are two totally different thing so you need to clarify which one your child is having.

Regardless, both can cause difficulty breathing but the treatment is different.

Many children that frequently wheeze in the first year of life will outgrow most of that wheezing. Some children remain asthmatics.

If your child is truly wheezing often, you many want to see a pulmonologist. Either your pcp of pulmonologist may put him on a daily medication to avoid wheezing episodes. On the other hand, they may want to wait a little longer before doing that to see if he will grow out of it.
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amother
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Post Thu, Sep 01 2016, 6:48 am
I'm the op, thanks lavender for replying.

Yes, croup and wheezing Are different. I watched a YouTube video to explain this. Therefore, to clarify, I'm asking. Two different questions here.
. 1) did you ever experience croup, like did your chip have breathing problems from croup? If you could share tho experience, this would help me for right now-- my son has this now.

. 2) the second question is about asthma, if you could share your experience with it, I would appreciate it as this would help me monitor my son for the more long term future by knowing what to expect (of course I will go to PCP too)

In the future, I may have to take him to a specialist but Boruch hashem, I have always caught anything before it got to any wheezing (I think )(I'm so unsure???)as his bad cough this winter made us think to take him to PCP and that's when we found out his lungs were closing and were told to give nebulizer and return in 2 days I think the PCP wants to wait until he's older before saying if its asthma or not.

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amother
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Post Thu, Sep 01 2016, 7:07 am
My son had croup once and his breathing was pretty labored. He required steroids for 2 days and was bH fine after that. He has never wheezed bH.

Regarding wheezing, at some point, you should be able to recognize when the cough sounds wheezy. You can also look at your sons chest and collarbone area to see if he's pulling in a lot in order to breathe. These are signs he's having trouble breathing/wheezing as well.
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amother
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Post Thu, Sep 01 2016, 7:32 am
Thanks for the reply. I'm going to PCP now, so I'm going to ask him if I should continue using the nebulizer with the steroid like they used in the hospital .
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amother
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Post Thu, Sep 01 2016, 7:59 am
My son has asthma which can be triggered by a cold. The pediatrician did a bad job of trying to manage it. The pulmonologist gave him singulair for daily use. Since then he needs asthma medicine only rarely and has never needed steroids.
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amother
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Post Thu, Sep 01 2016, 9:10 am
Emerald, thanks for replying. That's exactly what happened in the winter to my son. Everytime my son got a cold, his lungs started closing up. We had to use nebulizer. But, my son never had problem unless he had a cold first who h is why I wanted to see if anyone had similar issue. At this point, I'll monitor him this winter, and ill keep this medicine in mind.
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anonymrs




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Sep 01 2016, 9:41 am
I have a lot to say on this as I've had both with my kids. I'll try to come back later to post.
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greenfire




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Sep 01 2016, 11:00 am
for many people asthma acts up with weather changes and/or upper respiratory illnesses

also some people get addicted to those medicines and rely on them constantly

you have to know your own child so learning all this is imperative to helping them breath

definitely check out details with a pulmonologist because breathing is not something to play around with
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twogees




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Sep 01 2016, 11:37 am
My dc just had croup which required hospitilization. he woke up with what sounded like the begining of a bad cold/cough combo which resulted 2 hours later with difficitly breathing. he got 2 treatments of nebulization at my pcp who didnt like how he sounded after the 30 min reccomended for clearing so he sent us to the ped emergency room for better nebulizer treatments using a stronger med as well as steroids if needed. b"h worked but had to stay oernight for observation...
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gold21




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Sep 01 2016, 12:30 pm
Yep, that's how severe croup attacks are, the stridor (difficulty inhaling properly) comes on rapidly.

The child is breathing fine but just a few hours later is struggling to inhale properly.

I've unfortunately been there with my child and it was quite traumatic.

B"H for Hatzola!! B"H for steroid shot and IV steroids! B"H for oral steroids!

Since then ive learned how to identify and notice the beginning signs that croup is coming on, and keep a prescription bottle of oral steroids on hand to prevent stridor.

It's not really such a concern anymore now that this child is a little older. Croup is most common under 7.

Feel free to ask me more questions.
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gold21




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Sep 01 2016, 12:33 pm
I don't see why nebulizer treatment would be recommended for croup.

Nebulizer treatment is recommended for lung-related issues such as athsma.

Croup is when the THROAT swells up, not the lungs.
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amother
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Post Thu, Sep 01 2016, 12:37 pm
DD had something similar. We found that using a neti pot / nasal irrigation at the first sign of a cold often kept it from turning into an asthmatic episode.

We also had a nebulizer that we tried to use proactively.

Still had a few ER runs, but she is B"H ok and seems to have outgrown it.
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amother
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Post Thu, Sep 01 2016, 12:56 pm
I'm the op, thanks for replying.

Gold21, what's the difference whether I give oral steroids or steroids with nebulizer? I have two medicines for the nebulizer and one is a steroid. Why can't that be used for croup?its called budesonide. I know its for asthma but wouldn't it work for croup too or is there a specific type of steroid for croup?I didn't think it mattered which steroid he got. ??
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amother
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Post Thu, Sep 01 2016, 1:02 pm
also, gold21 can you tell me some signs that helped you notice whether croup was starting to develop??

Thanks.
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gold21




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Sep 01 2016, 1:08 pm
amother wrote:
I'm the op, thanks for replying.

Gold21, what's the difference whether I give oral steroids or steroids with nebulizer? I have two medicines for the nebulizer and one is a steroid. Why can't that be used for croup?its called budesonide. I know its for asthma but wouldn't it work for croup too or is there a specific type of steroid for croup?I didn't think it mattered which steroid he got. ??


Prednisone is recommended for croup. It comes in liquid form for children.
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gold21




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Sep 01 2016, 1:08 pm
amother wrote:
also, gold21 can you tell me some signs that helped you notice whether croup was starting to develop??

Thanks.


Yes I'll post soon I am serving lunch now lol
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animeme




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Sep 01 2016, 2:10 pm
If you have a child with severe croup who has a family history of asthma and has had his own symptoms, I would go to the pulmonologist now. You will get more clarity with the questions you are asking here.

Also, kids whose breathing issues get triggered by colds often get put on preventative treatment at the first sign of a cold. You can ask your doc about that.
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gold21




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Sep 01 2016, 2:18 pm
animeme wrote:
If you have a child with severe croup who has a family history of asthma and has had his own symptoms, I would go to the pulmonologist now. You will get more clarity with the questions you are asking here.

Also, kids whose breathing issues get triggered by colds often get put on preventative treatment at the first sign of a cold. You can ask your doc about that.


It's interesting
My child had a severe croup attack but B"H no athsma and no family history of athsma. It was very unexpected.
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greenfire




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Sep 01 2016, 2:20 pm
there are 2 parts to asthma ...
when the muscles around the airway tightens
when the lungs produce a thick mucus

that's why it's important for an asthmatic to drink a lot along with proper medications - general + emergency inhalers

if you cannot even hear the wheezing and the child cannot breath you need oxygen at the emergency room
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