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Tablepoetry




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Jun 06 2013, 8:27 am
I also don't open the windows necessarily when I clean. Like etky, I will open the window of the specific room, but not of the entire house. In the winter, the house is heated, in the summer, there's a/c....of course there's many months in between of open windows, but it's definitely not a year round thing.
I have 'parquet' (fake wood) in my bedrooms and hallway, so there's no spilling buckets of water there. And in the main areas, I do spill water, but after I sponja it all out, I go over it with a dry rag and it dries chick-chak.
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Fabulous




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Jun 06 2013, 8:35 am
Whenever my cleaning lady comes and it's not PERFECT in my apartment, I tell her that she should turn on the a/c or heat (depending on weather) in the room if she is working there and she needs it. I remind her several times if I come in and I feel it needs it. She puts it on/off as she feels necessary. Many feel the need for open windows to get rid of the smell/chemicals and/or air out the house.
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Tamiri




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Jun 06 2013, 8:38 am
I gotta say: kol hakavod to you kind ladies who take the cleaner's comfort into consideration. You are better than some office bosses I can think of!
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tsiggelle




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Jun 06 2013, 9:56 pm
If you have a lady cleaning for you, and she feels the need for the ac, close the windows and get the ac going. If you are fine with shvitsing while you work, that doesn't make it ok to say that someone else should be ok with shvitsing whilst working.

Close the windows and put the ac on.
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greenfire




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Jun 06 2013, 10:13 pm
let me preface this by saying I do not like air-conditioning in general [unless there's a heatwave] - I prefer natural air

once I was quite disturbed at a house I was working in when every time the person who was in the house left - the central air was turned off

it's something they splurge on for themselves - so I could not understand why in the sweltering heat they didn't consider how hot it actually was ... not to mention for the outcome of the actual work I was doing
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anon for this




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Jun 06 2013, 10:25 pm
I'm usually comfortable when the thermostat (in summer) is set to 74, even when I'm cleaning, but my housekeeper likes it cooler. So I set it lower when she arrives and adjusts it when she's ready to leave. Keeping all the doors and windows open while the AC is on does seem rather inefficient though, so I'm glad that she's never asked to do it.
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amother


 

Post Thu, Jun 06 2013, 11:09 pm
etky wrote:
Tamiri wrote:
amother wrote:
My cleaning lady dries the floors and dishes with towels. The windows are cleaned with paper towels. I never heard of opening the windows to dry the house.

My house is always comfortable whether it is hot or cold. It is a strange concept to consider the costs of cooling a house when considering someone's comfort. The house needs to be comfortable.

What bothers me is my cleaning lady leaves lights on when she leaves the room.
Cultural diff. In Israel, you NEVER clean with the windows closed, even in the winter. And comfortable houses? That's the stuff dreams are made of for most of us! Lights being left on is NOTHING compared to the exhorbitant cost of running the a/c in Israel.


Actually, I do, when it's really cold our during the winter. Or conversely, when it's very hot out and I have the ac running, cooling the entire house. In that case I open the window of the specific room I have just cleaned for a few minutes until the floor dries and then shut it asap. Then again I don't spill a ton of water and I go over the floor w/ a rag to dry it so it really just takes a couple of minutes until it dries. In the periods when I had cleaning help I always asked the cleaner if he/she wanted the ac on or not. I know I always sweat when I clean. It can be quite a workout.


I am sure this is part of the cultural differences, but why would anyone spill a ton of water when cleaning? I can't get my head around this whole cleaning style with the open windows. Water is damaging to buildings. It sounds almost like the floors are getting flooded. Are the open windows to dry the water or to air out the chemicals? Aren't there decent mops in Isreal? Is water really cheap?
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notshanarishona




 
 
    
 

Post Fri, Jun 07 2013, 12:29 am
Very common of how people do sponga over here to spill water all over. Its a totally different system that mopping and in some ways works better especially with all of the dust that accumulates on the floor.
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etky




 
 
    
 

Post Fri, Jun 07 2013, 2:01 am
amother wrote:

I am sure this is part of the cultural differences, but why would anyone spill a ton of water when cleaning? I can't get my head around this whole cleaning style with the open windows. Water is damaging to buildings. It sounds almost like the floors are getting flooded. Are the open windows to dry the water or to air out the chemicals? Aren't there decent mops in Isreal? Is water really cheap?


I think you probably have a point but that is definitely one of the most prevalent cleaning styles here in Israel, especially for terrazzo (balatot) floors. Don't forget it's a warm climate and windows are open most of the year and floors dry quickly. There is indeed a lot of dust here, I've often heard olim from North America commenting that they can't get over the amount of dust that accumulates here, bt. all the construction going on and being on the edge of a desert and with a prolonged annual arid season. Certain times of year are worse than others. Personally, I've found that a really thorough sweeping obviates the need for a ton of water (except in the bathrooms where I spill water liberally). Also, I have a granite porcelain floor downstairs in the main living area and I've found the less water system more effective for it.
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Liba




 
 
    
 

Post Fri, Jun 07 2013, 7:04 am
The floors here are sealed and there are tiles around the edges on the walls to keep the water from getting to the walls and causing damage.

It B"H has worked here for as long as people can remember. It would be taken as scandalous to suggest to an Israeli housewife that she should clean her floor any other way.
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Tamiri




 
 
    
 

Post Fri, Jun 07 2013, 7:43 am
You simply can't get all the sand and dust out without using water on the floors. Water isn't cheap but it's not THAT expensive to wash your floors decently once/week and with a wet shmatta a few times during the week. Carpets aren't the norm here. Nor are wood floors.
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mfb




 
 
    
 

Post Fri, Jun 07 2013, 7:56 am
amother wrote:
etky wrote:
Tamiri wrote:
amother wrote:
My cleaning lady dries the floors and dishes with towels. The windows are cleaned with paper towels. I never heard of opening the windows to dry the house.

My house is always comfortable whether it is hot or cold. It is a strange concept to consider the costs of cooling a house when considering someone's comfort. The house needs to be comfortable.

What bothers me is my cleaning lady leaves lights on when she leaves the room.
Cultural diff. In Israel, you NEVER clean with the windows closed, even in the winter. And comfortable houses? That's the stuff dreams are made of for most of us! Lights being left on is NOTHING compared to the exhorbitant cost of running the a/c in Israel.


Actually, I do, when it's really cold our during the winter. Or conversely, when it's very hot out and I have the ac running, cooling the entire house. In that case I open the window of the specific room I have just cleaned for a few minutes until the floor dries and then shut it asap. Then again I don't spill a ton of water and I go over the floor w/ a rag to dry it so it really just takes a couple of minutes until it dries. In the periods when I had cleaning help I always asked the cleaner if he/she wanted the ac on or not. I know I always sweat when I clean. It can be quite a workout.


I am sure this is part of the cultural differences, but why would anyone spill a ton of water when cleaning? I can't get my head around this whole cleaning style with the open windows. Water is damaging to buildings. It sounds almost like the floors are getting flooded. Are the open windows to dry the water or to air out the chemicals? Aren't there decent mops in Isreal? Is water really cheap?


The houses in Israel are built to use a lot of water to clean floors they make drain holes in the floor to push the dirty water into
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Tamiri




 
 
    
 

Post Fri, Jun 07 2013, 8:03 am
mommyfrombrooklyn wrote:

The houses in Israel are built to use a lot of water to clean floors they make drain holes in the floor to push the dirty water into
Maybe once upon a time? In my 40 years here, I've seen such drains on a mirpesset, but no where else. I don't know how people mop up the water in an apartment. I live in a house with lots of doors to the outside. And drains in the mirpasot.
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wispalover




 
 
    
 

Post Fri, Jun 07 2013, 8:18 am
Tamiri wrote:
FTR, it's not my friend who posted. I don't know her or where she lives, besides that it's somewhere in my village. I don't know if her cleaner is male or female, Jewish or otherwise.
I just thought it was an interesting post and I am fascinated that the responses here match the responses on my Israeli forum.
No one answer.
FS, I am with you: we clean and shvitz and do the whole house, using fans sometimes to speed up the drying process but NEVER an a/c.... it's pointless. And with windows open, the a/c is NEVER on.
But there are plenty of ladies here agreeing that the cleaner deserves to work in an a/c environment.
My take is that good cleaning help is SO hard to come by, you do whatever you have to do to keep her happy and working for you.


We never put the AC on here and we have central AC. Honestly nothing would make me madder than ANYONE putting on the AC and leaving all the windows/door open. We try and scrimp and save up money wherever we can so to see my money be wasted like that would really bother me, enough so that I would look for alternate help if I really needed it. It would be nothing personal against the cleaner though, or thinking she doesn't "deserve" it- merely the way I would behave for myself.
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etky




 
 
    
 

Post Fri, Jun 07 2013, 8:22 am
Tamiri wrote:
mommyfrombrooklyn wrote:

The houses in Israel are built to use a lot of water to clean floors they make drain holes in the floor to push the dirty water into
Maybe once upon a time? In my 40 years here, I've seen such drains on a mirpesset, but no where else. I don't know how people mop up the water in an apartment. I live in a house with lots of doors to the outside. And drains in the mirpasot.


We have them in the bathroom too. So ugly, and right in the middle of the floor too. BTW they now sell these really pretty retro drain covers.
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amother


 

Post Sat, Jun 08 2013, 4:51 pm
That's interesting. Wherever I have been and cleaned, I have seen holes in the home for the sponja water.

Nobody told me to open the windows to dry the floor, and I don't recall anyone doing that when I did sponja if the air conditioner was on.
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