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greenfire
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Sun, Dec 21 2014, 3:30 pm
where does sesame seeds come from ... what brocha would one say on a candy that is mostly sesame seeds ?
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Iymnok
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Sun, Dec 21 2014, 3:39 pm
They come from the seed pod of the sesame plant. I guess the bracha would be hoadama.
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greenfire
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Sun, Dec 21 2014, 3:40 pm
okay ~ I was about to wash
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zaq
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Sun, Dec 21 2014, 4:08 pm
greenfire wrote: | okay ~ I was about to wash |
As in al netilat yadayim? why?
sesame seeds are haadamah. Halvah is shehakol.(Brochos Study Guide by Rabbi Eliezer Wenger). I would assume that sesame candy which is whole sesame seeds in a sugar/honey matrix would also be haadamah, since peanut brittle in which whole peanuts or peanut pieces are visible is haadamah.
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greenfire
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Sun, Dec 21 2014, 4:13 pm
zaq wrote: | As in al netilat yadayim? why?
sesame seeds are haadamah. Halvah is shehakol.(Brochos Study Guide by Rabbi Eliezer Wenger). I would assume that sesame candy which is whole sesame seeds in a sugar/honey matrix would also be haadamah, since peanut brittle in which whole peanuts or peanut pieces are visible is haadamah. |
I dunno - my sonny boy always washes - I thought I wanted to eat the sesame bar & if all else fails wash on bread & no need for more brochos [I would lose my lub card cause you say a brocha on a forshbeis & dessert]
Last edited by greenfire on Sun, Dec 21 2014, 4:17 pm; edited 1 time in total
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greenfire
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Sun, Dec 21 2014, 4:16 pm
upside - I said האדמה
downside it wasn't so honey-licious
upside it was crunch but soft so I still have my teeth
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zaq
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Sun, Dec 21 2014, 4:20 pm
Since you asked, sesame is an annual herb that probably originated in Asia or East Africa before spreading throughout most of the tropical-to-temperate regions of the globe. It is not a grain but was ground into flour and used like grain in ancient Egypt. Interestingly, the finest Chinese ink blocks are made from soot generated by burning sesame oil. I think I would rather have fine halvah than a fine ink block.
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greenfire
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Sun, Dec 21 2014, 4:24 pm
zaq wrote: | Since you asked, sesame is an annual herb that probably originated in Asia or East Africa before spreading throughout most of the tropical-to-temperate regions of the globe. It is not a grain but was ground into flour and used like grain in ancient Egypt. Interestingly, the finest Chinese ink blocks are made from soot generated by burning sesame oil. |
thanx teach
zaq wrote: | I think I would rather have fine halvah than a fine ink block. |
as would I - chocolate coated please
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zaq
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Sun, Dec 21 2014, 5:19 pm
And now I have a yen for halvah...with pistachios or almonds is my fave but we only get packaged Joyva blocks, plain, marble or chocolate coated, often stale. Sigh.
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greenfire
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Sun, Dec 21 2014, 5:23 pm
don't they have use before dates ...
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OOTBubby
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Sun, Dec 21 2014, 5:24 pm
According to brachos.com, brocha before eating a sesame bar is ha'adama and after is borei nefashos citing source of "Laws of B'rachos" page 379.
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zaq
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Sun, Dec 21 2014, 5:25 pm
greenfire wrote: | I dunno - my sonny boy always washes - I thought I wanted to eat the sesame bar & if all else fails wash on bread & no need for more brochos [I would lose my lub card cause you say a brocha on a forshbeis & dessert] |
Maybe sonny boy thinks it is a cereal grain, like eating toasted wheat berries? I remember reading Ali Baba and the 40 Thieves and Ali Baba, trying to remember the password, mutters "it's a grain of some sort: Open Wheat? Open Rye? Oh, right, Open Sesame!"
Sesame was believed in ancient times to possess magical powers, hence the use of it as a magical incantation. I find sesame candy has a magical ability to remove fillings...
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zaq
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Sun, Dec 21 2014, 5:28 pm
greenfire wrote: | don't they have use before dates ... |
I think not. The use-before date is voluntary on the part of the manufacturer for non-perishables, and assumes excellent storage conditions. If they are stored in a hot warehouse or subjected to wide fluctuations in temp then all bets are off.
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zaq
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Sun, Dec 21 2014, 6:00 pm
greenfire wrote: | don't they have use before dates ... |
I think not. The use-before date is voluntary on the part of the manufacturer for non-perishables, and assumes optimal storage conditions. If they are stored in a hot warehouse or subjected to wide fluctuations in temp then all bets are off.
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greenfire
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Sun, Dec 21 2014, 6:05 pm
zaq wrote: | I think not. The use-before date is voluntary on the part of the manufacturer for non-perishables, and assumes optimal storage conditions. If they are stored in a hot warehouse or subjected to wide fluctuations in temp then all bets are off. |
they need refrigeration - don't they ?
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zaq
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Sun, Dec 21 2014, 6:48 pm
greenfire wrote: | they need refrigeration - don't they ? |
No. But because they have a high fat content, they do better in cool surroundings and will go rancid faster in the heat. In very hot weather if you have no a/c you would want to put halvah in the fridge because the heat will make it ooze oil and be very messy.
wait--are we talking halvah or sesame crunch candies? Sesame crunch candy requires no refrigeration but must be kept in a place of low humidity. The sugar/honey matrix absorbs water from the atmosphere and will get icky-sticky if left lying around in a humid place. In fact, if you make your own, you must make it on a cool, very dry day or it will not harden.
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greenfire
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Sun, Dec 21 2014, 7:13 pm
my mama used to make sesame candy - hm I have to call her now
but one of my daughter's shared an interesting one with me ... but now I wish I had halva - I'm in one of those moods where I need food for comfort
maybe I just need chanuka doughnuts ... or glenlivet - I'm confused
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greenfire
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Mon, Dec 22 2014, 7:42 am
zaq wrote: | Maybe sonny boy thinks it is a cereal grain, like eating toasted wheat berries? |
nah he just likes to wash - eat a bunch of everything so he can bentch
zaq wrote: | I remember reading Ali Baba and the 40 Thieves and Ali Baba, trying to remember the password, mutters "it's a grain of some sort: Open Wheat? Open Rye? Oh, right, Open Sesame!"
Sesame was believed in ancient times to possess magical powers, hence the use of it as a magical incantation. |
when I grew up I actually thought maybe it was 'open says a me' & how silly the open sesame was in my head - some things stick either way - to the noodle
zaq wrote: | I find sesame candy has a magical ability to remove fillings.... |
there should be a special morning brocha שיש לי שינים
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zaq
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Mon, Dec 22 2014, 4:45 pm
We must be related. Whenever anyone says anything about sesame, I think "sez-a you!"
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