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bubby




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Jun 13 2010, 2:31 pm
This was sent to me via a NY former neighbor of the writer, who now lives in Florida. Despite his age, this man certainly has all his marbles. Enjoy!!



Here’s the thing: I’ve been thinking about poor Helen Thomas, who I believe was probably just saying what everyone thinks and has therefore been made a scapegoat. Not that I really care, because we ought to share the scapegoat status once in a while. It’s the least we can do to dispel the stereotype that we are stingy, irritating Jews.

Irritating enough, apparently in our discovery of the written word, monotheism, modern physics, psychology, vaccinations, and the film industry, so that every country that has ever “hosted” us has found it necessary to tell us to get the hell out, like Thomas did.

Anywho. Helen, you know why we were in Germany and much of Eastern Europe in the first place? (And by the way, if I follow your advice, do you think the nice old ladies who got my grandmothers’ large houses and farms from the Nazis in what was once Czechoslovakia will kick the property back two generations? That would be cool because I’d love a vineyard and an agricultural estate.)

…We were in Germany and Hungary and Czechoslovakia and Russia (where we were regularly just plain killed by Cossacks), and also, for many centuries, Poland (ditto), cuz we were told to get the hell out of England , France , and Spain . (Or, you know, just plain killed by handsome and heroic fairytale knights.)

And you know why we were in Western Europe to begin with? Cuz we were told by the Greeks and the Romans – wait for this one – to get the hell out of “ Palestine ,” where we had been living since the beginning of recorded history.

We also ended up in Babylonia ( Iraq ) and other Middle Eastern and North African countries, where we stayed as second class citizens for hundreds and hundreds of years, till the Arab world finally caught up with the pagans and the Christians in their hatred of the Jews. Amazing how the student has now far surpassed the teacher. But I digress.

(By the way, I am aware that the Arab narrative has us Ashkenazi Jews as descendants of the Khazars, but the actual facts have it different. See this new DNA study linking European Jews with their Middle Eastern counterparts, all stemming from one original population of Holy Land Jews predating Roman times. Never mind our own texts that say the same thing; I know they are inadmissible in the international courts of the mind.)

In any event, there is no way around it: Jews being asked (usually not by old ladies on the White House lawn) to get the hell out of anywhere and everywhere is just the way it goes.

So it came to pass that about 200 years BCE the Macabees got sick of it and established a Jewish state in Palestine , within the Roman Empire, which lasted till about the time of Yoshke (another Pesky Jew) and the destruction of the Second Temple .

And it also came to pass that Jewish settlers began arriving in Ottoman Palestine in the late 1800’s, after the Russians and the Poles made it clear that Jews were persona non grata in Eastern Europe. Palestine was as good a place as any to escape to, since it was the last place, about 2000 years before, that the Jews had a sovereign state (see above). Never mind Jewish liturgy and texts pining for Jerusalem , since I know these, too, are inadmissible in the international courts of the mind.

Anyway, nowhere else wanted European Jews any more than Russia did, not even America really, where there were very strict quotas, although the Americans, again politely, refrained from all the messy European killing, which was apparently in vogue until after Hitler. Besides, those Ottoman Turks, as now, were known around the world for their amazing human rights activism and the Jews were excited to see it first hand. (No, not really. But…they were better than the Polish peasants. Unless you were Armenian.)

It is true that there were people in Palestine before the Jews arrived en masse (for there was always a handful of Jews that remained here….), not *A People*, but rather a group of assorted regional Arabs (think Native American tribes in North America…who by the way were treated much worse by the Colonialists…) who had settled the area with not much agricultural success and had endured various rulers over the millennia.

But when the *Jews* came back, it was suddenly necessary, once again, to tell them to get the hell out. There was no living side by side, even though that was an express Jewish desire right up until 1947/8, when the Partition Plan was summarily rejected by the Arab League, who started the war that Israel won. If keeping land you win in a war others provoke (when you wanted to make peace) is called occupation, Helen, the world’s axis of furious justice has a lot bigger fish to fry than shitty little Israel.

The Arab desire to kick the Jews the hell out of Palestine did not begin in 1967, and not in 1948. It began the moment the initial groups of Jews arrived and started to make the land flower and produce crops. That’s when the attacks on Jews began, and when the Arab world decided a new Jewish presence in the land would not do, back when there were about half a million Arabs and just under 100,000 Jews in the Holy Land, in the early 1900’s. 20% was too much, apparently, to bear. (The Hebron Massacre of 1929, where marauding Arabs killed nearly 70 Jews and wounded countless others, took place long before a single house was built over the Green Line.) I can only imagine how awful it was – probably for both the Arabs and the British – when it became clear we were here to stay and grow to much further percentages. We are that annoying, what with trying to get rid of malaria and tuberculosis and everything.

At any rate, it seems that every time a Jewish minority starts to make a society too successful – so annoying!!!! – the indigenous people start to feel very uncomfortable, and tells them one way or another to get the hell out.

But now, alas, there is nowhere left for us to go, except the eternal place Ahmadinejad wants us to go, and Haniyeh and Nasralla, and Hitler before them, and Chemilniki before him, and Haman before him, and so on. And, I suspect, in her heart of hearts, perhaps Thomas and the likes of her, who, the pesky Jew Freud may have observed, seriously let her slip show.

Let me make it clear: I know that Israel has made mistakes over its 62 years, some clumsy and inept (was there no intelligence regarding the terrorists aboard the Mavi Marmara?!?), and some borderline immoral. But none worse than every other democracy on earth has also done, and most much better than the large majority of the UN rogue nations which condemn Israel daily have done…daily. There is MUCH to improve in the way we govern, I will be the first to say it.

I will also be the first to say that various Jews of the Bernie Madoff and Greed-is-Good-Goldman-Sachs ilk make me want to crawl under a rock. I know that the world is only waiting for these guys to emerge in order to pin their crimes on all of us, even though everything they do is in direct contradiction of actual Jewish values.

But let’s be honest: the international community’s human rights crusades on behalf of the Palestinians are just the latest Crusades, and the ones who REALLY suffer are not the Jews or the Israelis but the poor occupants of the Third World who are ignored while the enlightened First World castigates the Jews… and yes, of course, the Palestinians, who are kept in misery *by their own leadership* in order to provide the polite Jew haters with a media club to beat them with.

So here’s the thing: We are not going anywhere this time, Helen. We totally get it: Ya’ll pretty much hate us. It’s just the way it is, like a natural law. Nothing we can do – not giving away pieces of Palestine/Israel (witness our evacuation of Gaza in 2005, and handing over the keys to army bases and greenhouses--a new economy! Food for the children! – which were summarily torched as property of the infidels); not donating billions annually to global charity, nor discovering a cure for Polio or the Theory of Relativity, or writing revered legal and religious texts, or co-founding Google, or manufacturing the microprocessor in the majority of laptops that spew Jew hatred to the Internet, or founding Christianity itself, or championing women’s rights and gay rights in the US and helping to bring about a *human rights revolution* in America in the 60’s, …None of those things will absolve us of our real sin: Existing and overcoming.

I’m really sorry they told you to get the hell out of the White House, Helen. It really wasn't your fault that you thought you could say what you said. It’s not like it’s a secret: That’s what people think.

But this time, seriously. Getting the hell out is not in the cards. We’re just sick of moving all the time.

I know. Irritating.
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life'sgreat




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Jun 13 2010, 4:09 pm
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No author's name?? This has to go viral on the net (though I'd change yoshke to Yoshke or something to be PC still).
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Hatemywig




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Jun 13 2010, 4:17 pm
Love it LOL
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bubby




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Jun 13 2010, 4:22 pm
life'sgreat wrote:
Thumbs Up Thumbs Up

No author's name?? This has to go viral on the net (though I'd change yoshke to Yoshke or something to be PC still).


No, no name (probably wary of giving up his anonymity.) But it is sooooooo good!
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life'sgreat




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Jun 13 2010, 4:22 pm
bubby wrote:
life'sgreat wrote:
Thumbs Up Thumbs Up

No author's name?? This has to go viral on the net (though I'd change yoshke to Yoshke or something to be PC still).


No, no name (probably wary of giving up his anonymity.) But it is sooooooo good!

Pity. An article loses credibility without a name. I think if you know him, you should ask him to make a pseudonym even.
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faigie




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Jun 13 2010, 8:38 pm
what a kewl guy
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Debbyl




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Jun 13 2010, 9:42 pm
It serves her right!!!
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bubby




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Jun 13 2010, 10:11 pm
I don't know who the writers is. But even though it is anonymous, I think it's on target.
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mamommommy




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Jun 13 2010, 11:22 pm
I think that this is a link to the original article in Haaretz written by Sara K. Eisen.

http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-.....95308
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lech lecha08




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Jun 13 2010, 11:23 pm
life'sgreat wrote:
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No author's name?? This has to go viral on the net (though I'd change yoshke to Yoshke or something to be PC still).


It's already out there to a degree. Someone I know posted it to Facebook from here
Web Page Name
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slushiemom




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Jun 14 2010, 1:34 am
Great article, bubby- but I'm not sure why you thought it was written by a 92 year old man? The author is actually a young woman in my community who has a blog, and this specific post was picked up by numerous newspapers, and spread around facebook.
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Akeres Habayis




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Jun 14 2010, 2:06 am
thanks!! shared w/my fb friends!
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louche




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Jun 14 2010, 9:12 am
slushiemom wrote:
Great article, bubby- but I'm not sure why you thought it was written by a 92 year old man? The author is actually a young woman in my community who has a blog, and this specific post was picked up by numerous newspapers, and spread around facebook.


I was actually wondering why anyone thought the writer's age was relevant. Maybe because Thomas is almost 90, only a 92-year-old could not be accused of impudence as a younger person might?
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bubby




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Jun 14 2010, 9:31 am
louche wrote:
slushiemom wrote:
Great article, bubby- but I'm not sure why you thought it was written by a 92 year old man? The author is actually a young woman in my community who has a blog, and this specific post was picked up by numerous newspapers, and spread around facebook.


I was actually wondering why anyone thought the writer's age was relevant. Maybe because Thomas is almost 90, only a 92-year-old could not be accused of impudence as a younger person might?


Hey, I'm the most naive person I know. It may have been written by an octogenarian + 10, or a 15 year old school girl. I just got it as I said & I loved it. I don't look to diminish the message even if the messenger is a bit iffy. And even though I believe all old people should be shot as incompetents, I'm willing to forgive this old geezer.

Sheesh! What do I do to get all this aggravation? Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Listen, people: if you don't approve/like/believe, that's your business, I really don't care. Confused
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sequoia




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Jun 14 2010, 9:32 am
We love this letter. We just think the person who wrote it should get credit for doing so.
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PinkFridge




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Jun 14 2010, 9:37 am
Calls to mind a song/video from a R. Skaist that IIRC is called The Protocols.
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bubby




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Jun 14 2010, 9:43 am
sequoia wrote:
We love this letter. We just think the person who wrote it should get credit for doing so.


Great idea! If you know, please post, I'd love to say great job to him/her.
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louche




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Jun 14 2010, 10:05 am
bubby wrote:

Sheesh! What do I do to get all this aggravation? Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Listen, people: if you don't approve/like/believe, that's your business, I really don't care. Confused


I think you misunderstand: we like this letter. we love it. we want to have the writer's baby, or if she's female and single, set her up with someone close to us . We just wonder why someone (not you) felt the need to say it was written by a male nonogenarian. Did they think attributing it to someone from Thomas' generation would somehow make it more valid or more cogent than if it were written by someone a fifth her age? Did they think attributing it to a male would make it more impressive? is that what we do these days: judge a work based upon who we think the source is, rather than on its own merits?
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slushiemom




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Jun 14 2010, 11:24 am
bubby wrote:
sequoia wrote:
We love this letter. We just think the person who wrote it should get credit for doing so.


Great idea! If you know, please post, I'd love to say great job to him/her.


Exactly why I wrote that- the author is Sara K. Eisen, and here's the link to her blog where she originally posted her article: http://the-word-well.com/get-t......html
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bubby




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Jun 14 2010, 11:34 am
louche wrote:
bubby wrote:

Sheesh! What do I do to get all this aggravation? Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Listen, people: if you don't approve/like/believe, that's your business, I really don't care. Confused


I think you misunderstand: we like this letter. we love it. we want to have the writer's baby, or if she's female and single, set her up with someone close to us . We just wonder why someone (not you) felt the need to say it was written by a male nonogenarian. Did they think attributing it to someone from Thomas' generation would somehow make it more valid or more cogent than if it were written by someone a fifth her age? Did they think attributing it to a male would make it more impressive? is that what we do these days: judge a work based upon who we think the source is, rather than on its own merits?


Hon, I don't think. If I did, I wouldn't get into the trouble I do. Rolling Eyes embarrassed But you are right; as I said before, the messenger shouldn't detract from the message.
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