Big Brother - Orthodox Jew!

Mama Bear

Thu, Jul 15 2010, 12:07 am

and Ima, I agree with you wholeheaetedly. but that's the reality about reality shows. also, you havent seen ANYTHING - youre seeing 3 days worth of stuff condensed into 1 hour. during the entire 3 days the bitching, backstabbing, and gameplaying is endless. it's the antithesis of everything yiddishkeit stands for - the loshon hora, the motzi shem ra, honaas devoraim and worse.

admittedly BB US is the only country inw hich this type of gameplay happens. In the internantional BB the public votes out the nominated housemates, not the housemates themselves, and it's considered a 'crime' to gameplay and talk behind other's backs. they also have daily tasks, and the show is aired nightely, so it's a lot less boring and the housemates are a lot less bored to death as there's always something happening.

Then again BBUS has the highest ratings, and BBUK and BBAus have been cancelled while BBUS is goinng strong...

the entire reality show thing shtinkt fin kup.... this year it's only riveting for us because of Andrew. who I suspect will last 1 more week, tops 2.

Mon, Jul 19 2010, 11:49 pm

Ima2NYM_LTR wrote:

JC wrote:

He is an embarrassment Sad

unfortunately, you are correct. I would vote him off if I could

I should rephrase that - THIS is an embarrassment, not 'he'
I know that the show will portray you in the worst possible way no matter how smooth and put together you are.

Didnt he have anyone to advise him that perhaps he doesnt have the personality for this show???? Forget about the religion thing, we all know people who are smooth operators and can handle a show like this and then we know people who arent.
What is it about our community that this poor guy didnt have the chevra to tell him point blank that this show just isnt for you. Are his friends just being too nice to him and not want to hurt his feeling? or are they so supportive that they are unrealistic... or are they mean and look forward to him failing?

Sorry if anyone here knows him personally, but if this is the way he acts in real life (which it may not be) where were his people to be brutally honest and stop the train wreck before it collided with the rest of the world.

I hope this isnt taken in the wrong way, I dont mean to come down on this guy, and this post isnt about his actions because he is probably a really nice guy - just in the wrong situation that paints him in a less than flattering light. BUT where are the people around him- Im sure he must have consulted someone (friend or mentor) about if he should do this, why werent they watching out for him???

I also realize that he may have not listened to those who may have told him not to do it.

I guess I was just hurting for him - bec I cant imagine I would be happy if I looked back and saw the way I behave (my silly laugh... getting caught with stains on my shirt... all the normal occurrences in my life) broadcast to the world like BB does... which is why I wouldnt be caught dead on one of those shows.

I think I will post on another thread about how far we should go to stop someone from doing something that may likely embarrass them.

Mama Bear

Wed, Jul 28 2010, 1:28 am

andrew is most definitely getting evicted this thursday. He is up against Kathy, Kathy was the target. However he made a very stupid move during the POV (Which you'll see tonight), and the entire house turnred against him,t hey decided he's a threat and liability, and he might yet be voted out by a 8-0 vote. I'm sad for him that he turned the house against him with his stupidity, but I guess it's bashert for him to only last 3 weeks in the house.

There's a rumor that the first 4 evictees will have a chance to be voted back in by america, because there isnt a 14th housemate. Who knows....

mommalah

Wed, Jul 28 2010, 8:09 am

kitov wrote:

OK, so this thread tempted me to watch the first two episodes on cbs.com.
What should I say? I don't care whether ppl eat cockroaches or swim in sewers to get money, regardless if they're buddhist or jewish. What disgusts me is, that in time of a national economic crisis, humans can take gazzillions of food and use it for the sole purpose of entertainment by humiliating others. Who gains what by wasting gallons of caramel or popcorn or ketchup or mustard? Only yidden have this thing of oiver bal tashchis, but this is reaally bad, even for a non-jew.

Just because it is an aveira to be wasteful doesn't mean all Jews follow it or that non jews are routinely oiver it. I know many yidden who throw away all their leftovers after Shabbos. on a regular basis And live off of plastic plates, cups, spoons, tablecloths, etc. And I know many non jews who are of the mentality to reuse and recycle everything. Your generalizations are quite bigoted.

kitov

Thu, Jul 29 2010, 12:49 pm

mommalah wrote:

kitov wrote:

I'm sorry my post might not have been clear. I'm trying to say a yid actually has an aveira when wasting useful stuff, so when he's oiver it's not only a disgrace, it's a sin too. Now since sinning on bal tashches doesn't apply to non-jews, and unless they are into conserving the universe or what, they absolutely can use/abuse food to their desire without an issue. However, I find it distasteful on TV.

And BTW, I don't enjoy the word bigotry, it wasn't in any way being deserved here. embarrassed

mominlkwd

Thu, Jul 29 2010, 12:56 pm

JC wrote:

Ima2NYM_LTR wrote:

JC wrote:

He is an embarrassment Sad

unfortunately, you are correct. I would vote him off if I could

I agree, I watched a few episodes just to see what everyone is talking about and even got my DH to watch part of it to see his reaction and we both can't figure out why BB cast him. I'm sure he's nice in real life but everyone else on the show is so suave and cool and he is a typical jewish nerd. He is so uncomfortable around people, I cringe just thinking about it now. I remember a few seasons ago they also had a jew on who was very nerdy, is this what they think we are all like? or is it just a stereotype they want to keep up on television? I can't imagine they couldn't have found a really cool, with it frum guy.