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amother

Fri, Mar 22 2024, 12:27 pm

From grocery store.
Did not get put away.
Any advice?
Can I still use it?

amother

Gardenia

Fri, Mar 22 2024, 12:36 pm

No, toss it

amother

Azalea

Fri, Mar 22 2024, 12:37 pm

Telling you the unspoken truth…
Most people would use it.
Unless it is extremely hot in your kitchen.
Wash it with very cold water. And cook it today.

patzer

Fri, Mar 22 2024, 12:58 pm

I wouldn't use it.
Your health is worth more than whatever you paid for the meat. Sick

amother

Pink

Fri, Mar 22 2024, 1:02 pm

amother Azalea wrote:

Telling you the unspoken truth…
Most people would use it.
Unless it is extremely hot in your kitchen.
Wash it with very cold water. And cook it today.

Strongly disagree. What does with cold water do? Unless you're using soap, which I really don't recommend, a rinse with cold water will not clean your meat or save you from food poisoning.

amother

Gardenia

Fri, Mar 22 2024, 1:02 pm

amother Azalea wrote:

Telling you the unspoken truth…
Most people would use it.
Unless it is extremely hot in your kitchen.
Wash it with very cold water. And cook it today.

Source?

amother

Mauve

Fri, Mar 22 2024, 1:51 pm

Absolutely not. Meat is very sensitive it grows dangerous bacteria which cannot be gotten rid of with cooking or anything. Food poisoning is horrendous and it’s not worth it. Most definitely throw it out.

amother

Mauve

Fri, Mar 22 2024, 1:52 pm

amother Azalea wrote:

Telling you the unspoken truth…
Most people would use it.
Unless it is extremely hot in your kitchen.
Wash it with very cold water. And cook it today.

No way. Pretty much the whole world knows meat needs to be dealt with carefully.

amother

Zinnia

Fri, Mar 22 2024, 1:52 pm

So upsetting.
I would throw away.

amother

Purple

Fri, Mar 22 2024, 1:53 pm

amother Azalea wrote:

Telling you the unspoken truth…
Most people would use it.
Unless it is extremely hot in your kitchen.
Wash it with very cold water. And cook it today.

No, most people would not use it!
I hope you don't use it or serve rotten meat to guests.

Shoshana Rose

Fri, Mar 22 2024, 1:55 pm

smell it!!

and take it from there

amother

Mauve

Fri, Mar 22 2024, 1:58 pm

Shoshana Rose wrote:

smell it!!

and take it from there

Never use smell as a tool. Bacteria is often odorless. This is how people get food poisoning.

NechaMom

Fri, Mar 22 2024, 2:16 pm

amother Azalea wrote:

Telling you the unspoken truth…
Most people would use it.
Unless it is extremely hot in your kitchen.
Wash it with very cold water. And cook it today.

It's the unspoken untruth.
Most people would not use it.

esther11

Fri, Mar 22 2024, 2:28 pm

Left out for 2 hours, I would prob use hesitantly. 12 hours, absolutely not.
So upsetting!

amother

Mulberry

Fri, Mar 22 2024, 8:14 pm

amother Pink wrote:

Strongly disagree. What does with cold water do? Unless you're using soap, which I really don't recommend, a rinse with cold water will not clean your meat or save you from food poisoning.

I wouldn’t use it either but the pathogens that cause food poisoning aren’t just in the surface so washing with soap wouldn’t necessarily eliminate them.

There are pathogens like E-coli that are spread by feces and are on the surface of meat. They are killed by heat which is why a steak when cooked rare is safe from e-coli disease but a hamburger cooked rare isn’t. When meat is ground the e-coli contaminates all the meat and so the interior of a rare hamburger would not rise to the temperature necessary to kill the pathogen.

This is also why cooking stuffing inside a turkey is potentially dangerous because the stuffing temperature because the temperature is ideal for certain pathogens to multiply.

LovesHashem

Sat, Mar 23 2024, 1:36 pm

esther11 wrote:

Left out for 2 hours, I would prob use hesitantly. 12 hours, absolutely not.
So upsetting!

Agreed! Omg I can't believe someone would use meat out for 12 hours! Unless you live in Siberia or Antarctica..... Please don't invite me over.

613mitzvahgirl

Sat, Mar 23 2024, 10:57 pm

I’m sorry, but this shouldn’t even be a question. This is why I get so scared to eat by ppl lately. You can call me crazy, but I won’t get insulted by this. Twelve hours is way too long. Please throw it out and please don’t let anyone tell you different.

amother

Ghostwhite

Sat, Mar 23 2024, 11:08 pm

One minute, most meats are bought frozen. If it was from frozen then it's totally fine.

amother

Pink

Sat, Mar 23 2024, 11:20 pm

amother Ghostwhite wrote:

One minute, most meats are bought frozen. If it was from frozen then it's totally fine.

Most meats are not bought frozen, unless you live in a very small community with limited access to fresh kosher meat.

amother

Ghostwhite

Sat, Mar 23 2024, 11:24 pm

amother Pink wrote:

Most meats are not bought frozen, unless you live in a very small community with limited access to fresh kosher meat.

I live in Yerushalayim with plenty access to kosher food Smile

But, the meats we buy are always frozen. All the rolls of meats/roasts here are frozen in the supermarkets. (Chicken no, but meat, yes.) Directly from the butcher store, possibly not.

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