Is this considered two brachos?--revised question

yo'ma

Wed, Feb 15 2017, 5:04 am

For MM I want to give/make a surprise cake. You know the cake where you make a hole in the center and put m and m's or something? That cake. Is it considered two brachos or are you supposed to give two people, one bracha? I always forget Rolling Eyes

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Also, if I can't find lentils, what do you think about putting mixed nuts, raisins, and chocolate chips in the center?

Revised question further down..

Last edited by yo'ma on Tue, Mar 07 2017, 10:24 am; edited 1 time in total

Iymnok

Wed, Feb 15 2017, 5:08 am

Two foods, not necessarily two brachos. Sounds fine as long as they are separate.

cinnamon

Wed, Feb 15 2017, 5:10 am

You don't need two brachos for mishloch manos you need two types of food. So a cake and a cookie would work. Not sure if the suprise cake is considred two types of food. My bet is on no but you can always aylor

ra_mom

Wed, Feb 15 2017, 5:11 am

Is the cake baked with the food hidden inside or is it like a bundt cake with food placed into the hole before you wrap it for MM?

LisaS

Wed, Feb 15 2017, 5:11 am

Put mini wrapped chocolates inside and then it will definitely be a separate food and bracha.

ra_mom

Wed, Feb 15 2017, 5:12 am

Like this?
http://www.bettycrocker.com/re.....4d50b

I agree with LisaS. The food inside should be wrapped so there's a clear distinction that it's a separate min.

allthingsblue

Wed, Feb 15 2017, 5:15 am

All you need is to give one person two foods. Doesn't need to be two brachos.

allthingsblue

Wed, Feb 15 2017, 5:16 am

I would ask my rabbi if that's considered two separate foods. I would think not- seems like one food.

To be safe, you can give one person a totally acceptable mishloach manos (cake and an apple or something), and give everyone else the surprise cake.

yo'ma

Wed, Feb 15 2017, 5:20 am

ra_mom wrote:

Like this?
http://www.bettycrocker.com/re.....4d50b

I agree with LisaS. The food inside should be wrapped so there's a clear distinction that it's a separate min.

Yes, like that. Okay, I'll find wrapped things. Thank you all!!

imasinger

Wed, Feb 15 2017, 5:37 am

If your putting something wrapped inside, just give a warning, so the unwary don't end up with a mouthful of foil.

greenfire

Wed, Feb 15 2017, 8:13 am

the m&m is so obviously different from the cake & not baked together so in real life you would actually have to make 2 brochos of mezonos & shehakol

FUN idea !!! [maybe I'll even surprise myself for my birthday] Colors

amother

Royalblue

Thu, Feb 16 2017, 5:49 pm

Off tangent but If it has nuts do u need to warn ppl?

MommyM

Thu, Feb 16 2017, 5:54 pm

amother wrote:

Off tangent but If it has nuts do u need to warn ppl?

It's probably best to do so. Better be safe then sorry.

yo'ma

Tue, Mar 07 2017, 10:27 am

I decided to do an open candy and a closed one on the side or something. I can't find chocolate lentils, so which do you think is better, chocolate covered peanuts (yes, I understand about warning thank you and it's a chocolate cake), winkies, or sugar coated gumdrops? I spoke to a friend and she said if I give her one, she wants a milichig one with rocklets (similar to m&m's Smile

). TIA

Cmon be nice

Tue, Mar 07 2017, 10:39 am

If the shulchan aruch said you need to give 2 types of meat where did the 2 brachos thing come from? I remember hearing it as a kid also

singleagain

Tue, Mar 07 2017, 11:21 am

Cmon be nice wrote:

If the shulchan aruch said you need to give 2 types of meat where did the 2 brachos thing come from? I remember hearing it as a kid also

I think two batches came abt as a safe gaurd that ppl wouldn't accidentally give two of the same thing (like two cookies) and think it's OK. As far as I learned you can. Give a candy and a cola, both shakol and perfectly acceptable.

I never knew you could give two meats... Is that like, I can give a rib and a steak?

ra_mom

Tue, Mar 07 2017, 11:27 am

Cmon be nice wrote:

If the shulchan aruch said you need to give 2 types of meat where did the 2 brachos thing come from? I remember hearing it as a kid also

It's a common mistake that many were taught in error.