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synthy
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 Sat, Feb 24 2024, 10:02 pm
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I've been wondering about this for a while, not because I'd ever want to shecht or even watch a chicken being slaughtered. I asked dh and he said according to the gemara a woman can shecht, but he doesn't know if it's discussed elsewhere. So I'm curious, does anyone know if a woman can actually be a shochet?
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synthy
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Sun, Feb 25 2024, 10:13 am
Bumpinging this up for the people who actually sleep at night 
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HarrietW
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Sun, Feb 25 2024, 10:16 am
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Women probably can be a shochet, they excluded women from this based on serarah but honestly it seems like a stretch to me
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synthy
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Sun, Feb 25 2024, 10:17 am
| HarrietW wrote: | | Women probably can be a shochet, they excluded women from this based on serarah but honestly it seems like a stretch to me | What does this mean, can you explain?
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GLUE
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Sun, Feb 25 2024, 10:31 am
Someone told me years ago that in Italy women would shect their own chicken.
I never tried to see if that was true or not.
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HarrietW
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Sun, Feb 25 2024, 10:32 am
I think the original example of serarah is the person who checks the scales to make sure they are kosher. It is not allowed for converts to have such a job, and it is a machlokes if women may have such a job. We pasken that she isn’t allowed to. Reb Moshe Feinstein said that a woman may not be a mashgiach based on this rule, but he paskened leniently for almanos, because today it works through an agency and it’s a machlokes.
It does NOT mean any random spiritual/leadership position. Throughout our history plenty of converts we’re big leaders
Edited to add- I checked this up a very long time ago, could be I don’t remember exactly. If you really need this information please verify irl.
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synthy
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Sun, Feb 25 2024, 10:36 am
| HarrietW wrote: | I think the original example of serarah is the person who checks the scales to make sure they are kosher. It is not allowed for converts to have such a job, and it is a machlokes if women may have such a job. We pasken that she isn’t allowed to. Reb Moshe Feinstein said that a woman may not be a mashgiach based on this rule, but he paskened leniently for almanos, because today it works through an agency and it’s a machlokes.
It does NOT mean any random spiritual/leadership position. Throughout our history plenty of converts we’re big leaders
Edited to add- I checked this up a very long time ago, could be I don’t remember exactly. If you really need this information please verify irl. | Oh, I get it. I remember reading that it's controversial if a convert can be a a rav btw.
I totally don't need this info irl, I was just curious and started researching.
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synthy
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Sun, Feb 25 2024, 10:37 am
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I decided to google this question even tho I don't like googling halacha, and now this thread is the 5th result🤦♀️
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HarrietW
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Sun, Feb 25 2024, 10:39 am
| synthy wrote: | Oh, I get it. I remember reading that it's controversial if a convert can be a a rav btw.
I totally don't need this info irl, I was just curious and started researching. |
Shmaya and Avtalyon were geirim. Please excuse my spelling
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synthy
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Sun, Feb 25 2024, 10:43 am
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I believe the issue is if they are the official rav of a kehilla, I.e. mara deasra. But again not everyone holds that it's an issue.
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self-actualization
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Sun, Feb 25 2024, 10:54 am
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I also heard that it Italy women were shochets and mohels. Like in the 1500s or so.
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leaf
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Sun, Feb 25 2024, 12:00 pm
שולחן ערוך יורה דעה סימן א סעיף א
הכל שוחטים לכתחילה, אפילו נשים.
הגה: יש אומרים שאין להניח נשים לשחוט, שכבר נהגו שלא לשחוט, וכן המנהג שאין הנשים שוחטות (ב"י בשם האגור).
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DrMom
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Sun, Feb 25 2024, 12:05 pm
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I cannot imagine why a woman couldn't be a shochet.
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shanie5
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Sun, Feb 25 2024, 12:36 pm
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The term is Shochetes. I asked this of someone once, and was told that yes, a woman can shecht. But I was not given a source for it.
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GLUE
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Sun, Feb 25 2024, 12:49 pm
| leaf wrote: | שולחן ערוך יורה דעה סימן א סעיף א
הכל שוחטים לכתחילה, אפילו נשים.
הגה: יש אומרים שאין להניח נשים לשחוט, שכבר נהגו שלא לשחוט, וכן המנהג שאין הנשים שוחטות (ב"י בשם האגור). |
Can you translate into English?
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leaf
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Mon, Feb 26 2024, 11:17 am
| leaf wrote: | שולחן ערוך יורה דעה סימן א סעיף א
הכל שוחטים לכתחילה, אפילו נשים.
הגה: יש אומרים שאין להניח נשים לשחוט, שכבר נהגו שלא לשחוט, וכן המנהג שאין הנשים שוחטות (ב"י בשם האגור). |
Translation:
Shulchan Aruch: Everyone can slaughter optimally, even women.
Rema: there are those that say not to let women slaughter, since they customarily do not slaughter, and the custom is that women don't slaughter.
I believe the shach disagrees with the rema as to whether women customarily didnt slaughter
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