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amother
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Fri, Jul 20 2018, 12:48 am
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amother
Dodgerblue
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Fri, Jul 20 2018, 1:39 am
Business owner (60 employees)
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amother
Green
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Fri, Jul 20 2018, 4:18 am
amother wrote: | It's very interesting that this and the following quote from jewishmom8:
full time kollel
19 years so far Very Happy
are the 2 most liked posts right now.
After all the discussions here on kollel lifestyle this seems to indicate that it's still something very much admired by a lot of people. |
I'm usually so anti kollel. But I do admire it for those who take it so seriously.
It's not for everyone imo and it shouldn't have to be. That's the part I don't admire. Not everyone is a good learner, not everyone takes it seriously. Some just do it because it's expected, because it's easier than working, because of the reputation etc. That's not something to admire.
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Ruchel
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Fri, Jul 20 2018, 8:43 am
amother wrote: | I'm usually so anti kollel. But I do admire it for those who take it so seriously.
It's not for everyone imo and it shouldn't have to be. That's the part I don't admire. Not everyone is a good learner, not everyone takes it seriously. Some just do it because it's expected, because it's easier than working, because of the reputation etc. That's not something to admire. |
Kollel for everyone is something I just encounter online I'm pro kollel when it makes people happy, when they learn with their heart, when the wife or kids don't suffer. Many girls don't want a FT learner because they think" I'll be pregnant" etc.
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amother
Jetblack
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Fri, Jul 20 2018, 10:31 am
Rebbi (with a masters in education)
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Mommyg8
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Fri, Jul 20 2018, 11:07 am
amother wrote: | I'm usually so anti kollel. But I do admire it for those who take it so seriously.
It's not for everyone imo and it shouldn't have to be. That's the part I don't admire. Not everyone is a good learner, not everyone takes it seriously. Some just do it because it's expected, because it's easier than working, because of the reputation etc. That's not something to admire. |
So this is the attitude I don't understand. I come from a family/community where everyone starts off in kollel (with some exceptions of course) and I think it's a beautiful thing. I truly don't get what bothers you.
As for learning being easier than working -- I told my boys that this is what imamother says; they laughed so hard...
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1091
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Fri, Jul 20 2018, 1:31 pm
Pension counsulant is the short description. Basically he takes care of his employer’s in house pension and 401k plan. Expanding now more into health and welfare.
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amother
Firebrick
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Fri, Jul 20 2018, 1:34 pm
Mommyg8 wrote: | So this is the attitude I don't understand. I come from a family/community where everyone starts off in kollel (with some exceptions of course) and I think it's a beautiful thing. I truly don't get what bothers you.
As for learning being easier than working -- I told my boys that this is what imamother says; they laughed so hard... |
Have they ever worked?
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amother
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Fri, Jul 20 2018, 2:07 pm
Fellow wife of big 4 firm accountant here! It is alot of work! I have to say it's not as busy as you say though. During busy season my husband would come home about 10. One job insisted they all leave @ 7 and then he would work from home and atleast still be home. In summer it's def more chilled but and he comes home around 7. The month of December he's basically off all month and works from home a couple hours a day. It really doesn't pay well though:(
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amother
Rose
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Fri, Jul 20 2018, 3:18 pm
amother wrote: | Fellow wife of big 4 firm accountant here! It is alot of work! I have to say it's not as busy as you say though. During busy season my husband would come home about 10. One job insisted they all leave @ 7 and then he would work from home and atleast still be home. In summer it's def more chilled but and he comes home around 7. The month of December he's basically off all month and works from home a couple hours a day. It really doesn't pay well though:( |
Big Four Senior Manager here - it will.
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cookiewriter
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Fri, Jul 20 2018, 4:12 pm
Lawyer and art consultant
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tryinghard
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Fri, Jul 20 2018, 4:49 pm
High School Rebbe in the mornings. Property management before, during (on his breaks!), and after. Everything and anything at home in between running from one thing to the next. I really need to show him more appreciation.
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amother
Sienna
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Sat, Jul 21 2018, 10:39 pm
[quote="amother"]Big Four Senior Manager here - it will.[/quot
That's reassuring! How much will heake as senior manager? I work too but hoping to be able to go part time somewhere in the near future!
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amother
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Sat, Jul 21 2018, 11:20 pm
Mommyg8 wrote: | So this is the attitude I don't understand. I come from a family/community where everyone starts off in kollel (with some exceptions of course) and I think it's a beautiful thing. I truly don't get what bothers you.
As for learning being easier than working -- I told my boys that this is what imamother says; they laughed so hard... |
For the boys who take learning seriously and actually learn all day, kol Hakavod, it is hard work. Unfortunately, many many men aren’t actually learning in their allotted time. Plus, a kollel schedule is very very relaxed giving a whole afternoon off for lunch etc. A kollel man can take off a few hours to take his children to the doctor. A working man cannot. A working man doesn’t get 3 hour lunch break. A working man sometimes travels far and works 12-15 hour shifts. So no, I don’t think kollel is half as difficult as work and neither does my hardworking husband who started off in kollel
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amother
Lilac
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Sat, Jul 21 2018, 11:30 pm
Senior Specialist in Loan Administration at an large international bank.
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streak
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Sat, Jul 21 2018, 11:37 pm
Maya wrote: | Architectural designer and president of architectural firm. Three months away from being a licensed architect. |
How can one be president of an architectural firm be a designer and not be a licensed architect?
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thunderstorm
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Sun, Jul 22 2018, 12:23 am
streak wrote: | How can one be president of an architectural firm be a designer and not be a licensed architect? | in assuming he hires a licensed architect.
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Iymnok
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Sun, Jul 22 2018, 4:56 am
Kollel first seder.
Alternative loan broker at night. Mostly business, some personal.
With enough revenue he plans to add another learning seder.
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