pros and cons of the name Shalom?

Ruchel

Mon, Dec 03 2007, 7:50 pm

YOel on contrary, includes Hashem's name.
Some people write Michael Micha-l, Raphael Rapha-l and so on.

there are tons of names in that style... Yocheved, Ariel, Batya, Daniel, Eli, most seem to be male.

gryp

Mon, Dec 03 2007, 7:52 pm

Sholom is completely different. There is a specific halacha about the name Sholom. (I read it in the Kitzur years ago.)

I don't have any Sholom's but I love the name.

Clarissa

Mon, Dec 03 2007, 7:54 pm

GR wrote:

Sholom is completely different. There is a specific halacha about the name Sholom. (I read it in the Kitzur years ago.)

I don't have any Sholom's but I love the name.

Can you explain it to me? We considered the name for our son, but went with a similar name, but not Sholom.

gryp

Mon, Dec 03 2007, 8:01 pm

I don't think there's much to explain. It simply says that Sholom is one of the names of Hashem and shouldn't be said in the bathroom. If I remember correctly, it goes on to say that when trying to avoid saying the name of Hashem, we shouldn't say the very-frequently-used "Ado- shem" because it's not respectful to Hashem, and then other things like that.

Hannah!

Mon, Dec 03 2007, 8:09 pm

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chocolate moose

Mon, Dec 03 2007, 8:18 pm

Hannah! wrote:

CM -- I do not hold that names containing "yud-key" and "keil" are problematic

How do you just decide that shem haShem is not holy?

Raisin

Mon, Dec 03 2007, 8:20 pm

You could call a child Shalom Yisrael, a beautiful combination. But now I don't know if you can say Yisrael in the bathroom either!

Hannah!

Mon, Dec 03 2007, 9:04 pm

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Mon, Dec 03 2007, 9:05 pm

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gryp

Mon, Dec 03 2007, 9:50 pm

Hannah, I would want to reread it again to refresh my memory to answer your question.

redhot

Mon, Dec 03 2007, 9:56 pm

I learn somethign new every day! I never heard that there are those that dont name the name shalom or use it in bathroom. I never even knew it was shem Hashem!!!

I am trying to understand the problem with names that end in K-l or K-ah. Do u mean names like gedalya, zecharya, daniel, rephael, shmuel, ...Etc ??

greentiger

Mon, Dec 03 2007, 9:57 pm

Yup, and I remember learning that one shouldn't say Shalom before davening bircos hashachar in the morning.

Crayon210

Mon, Dec 03 2007, 10:01 pm

For the record, Yael doesn't contain any semblance of Shem Hashem.

mommy24

Mon, Dec 03 2007, 10:15 pm

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Yup, and I remember learning that one shouldn't say Shalom before davening bircos hashachar in the morning.

Is this true? shock

one of my sons' names is shalom and I never heard of this before, I rarely say birchos hashachar before dropping him off at school embarrassed

greentiger

Mon, Dec 03 2007, 10:21 pm

Dunno, it's what I learned, but I have no clue where it comes from. Maybe ask your LOR?

Hannah!

Mon, Dec 03 2007, 11:01 pm

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greenfire

Mon, Dec 03 2007, 11:09 pm

a lot of people have called "chaya" "chaika" for that reason ... (at least in the older generation)

redhot

Mon, Dec 03 2007, 11:10 pm

Crayon210 wrote:

For the record, Yael doesn't contain any semblance of Shem Hashem.

isnt yael an Ayin?? why would that have to even be clarified...

Crayon210

Mon, Dec 03 2007, 11:43 pm

Someone mentioned it earlier...