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small bean




 
 
 
 

Post  Thu, Feb 13 2020, 6:43 pm
SixOfWands wrote:
Well, people from across the political spectrum aren't welcome at Trump rallies, as you well know.

But your point, her point, is that his policies are irrelevant, its the atmosphere and aura that matter. So I argue that the atmosphere and aura are toxic, and y'all do a 180 and say its policies. I say let's discuss policies. Let's discuss work requirements for Medicaid. And then I get heavens no. Its not POLICY!


Anyone is welcome at a trump rally as long as they act respectfully.

That being said she clearly says in the article that it is not the policy, it is the unity and patriotism. She says that is why she became an independent. She feels the left is to busy with taking us a part. She is clearly not a republican in her policy.

I didnt read the whole thread, I think we should talk policy thisis not the thread for it. This is going to become a hard to read thread with littlw substance.
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malki2




 
 
 
 

Post  Thu, Feb 13 2020, 7:21 pm
SixOfWands wrote:
Well, people from across the political spectrum aren't welcome at Trump rallies, as you well know.

But your point, her point, is that his policies are irrelevant, its the atmosphere and aura that matter. So I argue that the atmosphere and aura are toxic, and y'all do a 180 and say its policies. I say let's discuss policies. Let's discuss work requirements for Medicaid. And then I get heavens no. Its not POLICY!


The Democrat who wrote this article was very welcome at the rally. In contrast to people who get punched in the face and thrown out of restaurants for wearing MAGA hats. That’s why I posted the article. If you would like to discuss other things, please open your own thread.
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SixOfWands




 
 
 
 

Post  Thu, Feb 13 2020, 7:49 pm
malki2 wrote:
The Democrat who wrote this article was very welcome at the rally. In contrast to people who get punched in the face and thrown out of restaurants for wearing MAGA hats. That’s why I posted the article. If you would like to discuss other things, please open your own thread.


The father of a child who was murdered was kicked out of the SOTU address, and not welcomed to the White House.

Trump has repeatedly supported violence against protesters at his rallies, even going so far as to encourage violence ("knock the cr@p out of protesters" "maybe he should have been roughed up." "Try not to hurt him. If you do, I'll defend you in court, don't worry about it.") and to say that he will pay for the legal fees.

That's wrong. So is hitting people in MAGA hats. I've condemned it before. I'll condemn it again. Violence has no place in our society.

But are you willing to equally condemn those who commit violence in Trump's name? Or do you excuse it, saying not his fault?

Aug. 19, 2015: In Boston, after he and his brother beat a sleeping homeless man of Mexican descent with a metal pole, Steven Leader, 30, told police "Donald Trump was right, all these illegals need to be deported." The victim, however, was not in the United States illegally. The brothers, who are white, ultimately pleaded guilty to several assault-related charges and were each sentenced to at least two years in prison.

Dec. 5, 2015: After Penn State University student Nicholas Tavella, 19, was charged with "ethnic intimidation" and other crimes for threatening to "put a bullet" in a young Indian man on campus, his attorney argued in court that Tavella was just motivated by "a love of country," not "hate." "Donald Trump is running for President of the United States saying that, 'We've got to check people out more closely,'" Tavella's attorney argued in his defense. Tavella, who is white, ultimately pleaded guilty to ethnic intimidation and was sentenced to up to two years in prison.

April 28, 2016: When FBI agents arrested 61-year-old John Martin Roos in White City, Oregon, for threatening federal officials, including then-President Barack Obama, they found several pipe bombs and guns in his home. In the three months before his arrest, Roos posted at least 34 messages to Twitter about Trump, repeatedly threatening African Americans, Muslims, Mexican immigrants and the "liberal media," and in court documents, prosecutors noted that the avowed Trump supporter posted this threatening message to Facebook a month earlier: "The establishment is trying to steal the election from Trump. ... Obama is already on a kill list ... Your [name] can be there too." Roos, who is white, has since pleaded guilty to possessing an unregistered explosive device and posting internet threats against federal officials. He was sentenced to more than five years in prison.

June 3, 2016: After 54-year-old Henry Slapnik attacked his African-American neighbors with a knife in Cleveland, he told police "Donald Trump will fix them because they are scared of Donald Trump," according to police reports. Slapnik, who is white, ultimately pleaded guilty to "ethnic intimidation" and other charges. It's unclear what sentence he received.

Aug. 16, 2016: In Olympia, Washington, 32-year-old Daniel Rowe attacked a white woman and a black man with a knife after seeing them kiss on a popular street. When police arrived on the scene, Rowe professed to being "a white supremacist" and said "he planned on heading down to the next Donald Trump rally and stomping out more of the Black Lives Matter group," according to court documents filed in the case. Rowe, who is white, ultimately pleaded guilty to charges of assault and malicious harassment, and he was sentenced to more than four years in prison.

Sept. 1, 2016: The then-chief of the Bordentown, New Jersey, police department, Frank Nucera, allegedly assaulted an African American teenager who was handcuffed. Federal prosecutors said the attack was part of Nucera's "intense racial animus," noting in federal court that "within hours" of the assault, Nucera was secretly recorded saying "Donald Trump is the last hope for white people." The 60-year-old Nucera has been indicted by a federal grand jury on three charges, including committing a federal hate crime. Nucera, who is white, has pleaded not guilty and is awaiting trial. He retired two years ago.

September 2016: After 40-year-old Mark Feigin of Los Angeles was arrested for posting anti-Muslim and allegedly threatening statements to a mosque's Facebook page, his attorney argued in court that the comments were protected by the First Amendment because Feigin was "using similar language and expressing similar views" to "campaign statements from then-candidate Donald Trump." Noting that his client "supported Donald Trump," attorney Caleb Mason added that "Mr. Feigin's comments were directed toward a pressing issue of public concern that was a central theme of the Trump campaign and the 2016 election generally: the Islamic roots of many international and U.S. terrorist acts." Feigin, who is white, ultimately pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor charge of sending harassing communications electronically. He was sentenced to probation.

Oct. 13, 2016: After the FBI arrested three white Kansas men for plotting to bomb an apartment complex in Garden City, Kansas, where many Somali immigrants lived, one of the men's attorneys insisted to a federal judge that the plot was "self-defensive" because the three men believed "that if Donald Trump won the election, President Obama would not recognize the validity of those results, that he would declare martial law, and that at that point militias all over the country would have to step in." Then, after a federal grand jury convicted 47-year-old Patrick Stein and the two other men of conspiracy-related charges, Stein's attorney argued for a lighter sentence based on "the backdrop" of Stein's actions: Trump had become "the voice of a lost and ignored white, working-class set of voters" like Stein, and the "climate" at the time could propel someone like Stein to "go to 11," attorney Jim Pratt said in court. Stein and his two accomplices were each sentenced to at least 25 years in prison.

Nov. 3, 2016: In Tampa, Florida, David Howard threatened to burn down the house next to his "simply because" it was being purchased by a Muslim family, according to the Justice Department. He later said under oath that while he harbored a years-long dislike for Muslims, the circumstances around the home sale were "the match that lit the wick." He cited Trump's warnings about immigrants from majority-Muslim countries. "[With] the fact that the president wants these six countries vetted, everybody vetted before they come over, there's a concern about Muslims," Howard said. Howard, who is white, ultimately pleaded guilty to a federal civil rights violation, and the 59-year-old was sentenced to eight months in prison.

Nov. 10, 2016: A 23-year-old man from High Springs, Florida, allegedly assaulted an unsuspecting Hispanic man who was cleaning a parking lot outside of a local food store. "[H]e was suddenly struck in the back of the head," a police report said of the victim. "[The victim] asked the suspect why he hit him, to which the suspect replied, 'This is for Donald Trump.' The suspect then grabbed [the victim] by the jacket and proceeded to strike him several more times," according to the report. Surveillance video of the incident "completely corroborated [the victim's] account of events," police said. The suspect was arrested on battery charges, but the case was dropped after the victim decided not to pursue the matter, police said. Efforts by ABC News to reach the victim for further explanation were not successful.

Nov. 12, 2016: In Grand Rapids, Michigan, while attacking a cab driver from East Africa, 23-year-old Jacob Holtzlander shouted racial epithets and repeatedly yelled the word, "Trump," according to law enforcement records. Holtzlander, who is white, ultimately pleaded guilty to a charge of ethnic intimidation, and he was sentenced to 30 days in jail.


Jan. 25, 2017: At JFK International Airport in New York, a female Delta employee, wearing a hijab in accordance with her Muslim faith, was "physically and verbally" attacked by 57-year-old Robin Rhodes of Worcester, Mass., "for no apparent reason," prosecutors said at the time. When the victim asked Brown what she did to him, he replied: "You did nothing, but ... [Expletive] Islam. [Expletive] ISIS. Trump is here now. He will get rid of all of you." Rhodes ultimately pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor charge of "menacing," and he was sentenced to probation.

Feb. 19, 2017: After 35-year-old Gerald Wallace called a mosque in Miami Gardens, Florida, and threatened to "shoot all y'all," he told the FBI and police that he made the call because he "got angry" from a local TV news report about a terrorist act. At a rally in Florida the day before, Trump falsely claimed that Muslim refugees had just launched a terrorist attack in Sweden.


Feb. 23, 2017: Kevin Seymour and his partner Kevin price were riding their bicycles in Key West, Florida, when a man on a moped, 30-year-old Brandon Davis of North Carolina, hurled anti-gay slurs at them and "intentionally" ran into Seymour's bike, shouting, "You live in Trump country now," according to police reports and Davis' attorney. Davis ultimately pleaded guilty to a charge of battery evidencing prejudice, but in court, he expressed remorse and was sentenced to four years of probation.

May 3, 2017: In South Padre Island, Texas, 35-year-old Alexander Jennes Downing of Waterford, Connecticut, was captured on cellphone video taunting and aggressively approaching a Muslim family, repeatedly shouting, "Donald Trump will stop you!" and other Trump-related remarks. Police arrested downing, of Waterford, Connecticut, for public intoxication. It's unclear what came of the charge.

Oct. 22, 2017: A 44-year-old California man threatened to kill Rep. Maxine Waters, D-Calif., for her frequent criticism of Trump and her promise to "take out" the president. Anthony Scott Lloyd left a voicemail at the congresswoman's Washington office, declaring: "If you continue to make threats towards the president, you're going to wind up dead, Maxine. Cause we'll kill you." After pleading guilty to one count of threatening a U.S. official, Lloyd asked the judge for leniency, saying he suffered from addiction-inducing mental illness and became "far too immersed in listening to polarizing political commentators and engaging in heated political debates online." His lawyer put it this way to the judge: "Mr. Lloyd was a voracious consumer of political news online, on television and on radio … [that are] commonly viewed as 'right wing,' unconditionally supportive of President Trump, and fiercely critical of anyone who opposed President Trump's policies." The judge sentenced Lloyd to six months of house arrest and three years of probation.

August 2018: After the Boston Globe called on news outlets around the country to resist what it called "Trump's assault on journalism," the Boston Globe received more than a dozen threatening phone calls. "You are the enemy of the people," the alleged caller, 68-year-old Robert Chain of Encino, California, told a Boston Globe employee on Aug. 22. "As long as you keep attacking the President, the duly elected President of the United States ... I will continue to threat[en], harass, and annoy the Boston Globe." A week later, authorities arrested Chain on threat-related charges. After a hearing in his case, he told reporters, "America was saved when Donald J. Trump was elected president." Chain has pleaded guilty to seven threat-related charges, and he is awaiting sentencing.

Oct. 4, 2018: The Polk County Sheriff's Office in Florida arrested 53-year-old James Patrick of Winter Haven, Florida, for allegedly threatening "to kill Democratic office holders, members of their families and members of both local and federal law enforcement agencies," according to a police report. In messages posted online, Patrick detailed a "plan" for his attacks, which he said he would launch if then-nominee Brett Kavanaugh was not confirmed as a Supreme Court justice, the police report said. Seeking Patrick's release from jail after his arrest, Patrick's attorney, Terri Stewart, told a judge that her client's "rantings" were akin to comments from "a certain high-ranking official" -- Trump. The president had "threatened the North Korean people -- to blow them all up. It was on Twitter," Stewart said, according to the Sarasota Herald-Tribune. Patrick has been charged with making a written threat to kill or injure, and he has pleaded not guilty. His trial is pending.


Late October 2018: Over the course of a week, Florida man Cesar Sayoc allegedly mailed at least 15 potential bombs to prominent critics of Trump and members of the media. Sayoc had been living in a van plastered with pro-Trump stickers, and he had posted several pro-Trump messages on social media. Federal prosecutors have accused him of "domestic terrorism," and Sayoc has since pleaded guilty to 65 counts, including use of a weapon of mass destruction. He was sentenced to 20 years in prison. "We believe the president's rhetoric contributed to Mr. Sayoc's behavior," Sayoc's attorney told the judge at sentencing.

Dec. 4, 2018: Michael Brogan, 51, of Brooklyn, New York, left a voicemail at an unidentified U.S. Senator's office in Washington insisting, "I'm going to put a bullet in ya. … You and your constant lambasting of President Trump. Oh, reproductive rights, reproductive rights." He later told an FBI agent that before leaving the voicemail he became "very angry" by "an internet video of the Senator, including the Senator's criticism of the President of the United States as well as the Senator's views on reproductive rights." "The threats were made to discourage the Senator from criticizing the President," the Justice Department said in a later press release. Brogan has since pleaded guilty to one count of threatening a U.S. official, and he is awaiting sentencing.

Jan. 17, 2019: Stephen Taubert of Syracuse, New York, was arrested by the U.S. Capitol Police for threatening to kill Rep. Maxine Waters, D-Calif., and for threatening to "hang" former President Barack Obama. Taubert used "overtly bigoted, hateful language" in his threats, according to federal prosecutors. On July 20, 2018, Taubert called the congresswoman's Los Angeles office to say he would find her at public events and kill her and her entire staff. In a letter to the judge just days before Taubert's trial began, his defense attorney, Courtenay McKeon, noted: "During that time period, Congresswoman Waters was embroiled in a public feud with the Trump administration. … On June 25, 2018, in response to Congresswoman Waters' public statements, President Trump tweeted: 'Congresswoman Maxine Waters, an extraordinarily low IQ person, has … just called for harm to supporters … of the Make America Great Again movement. Be careful what you wish for Max!'" As McKeon insisted to the judge: "This context is relevant to the case." A federal jury ultimately convicted Taubert on three federal charges, including retaliating against a federal official and making a threat over state lines. He was sentenced to nearly four years in prison.


Jan. 22, 2019: David Boileau of Holiday, Florida, was arrested by the Pasco County Sheriff's Office for allegedly burglarizing an Iraqi family's home and "going through" their mailbox, according to a police report. After officers arrived at the home, Boileau "made several statements of his dislike for people of Middle Eastern descent," the report said. "He also stated if he doesn't get rid of them, Trump will handle it." The police report noted that a day before, Boileau threw screws at a vehicle outside the family's house. On that day, Boileau allegedly told police, "We'll get rid of them one way or another." Boileau, 58, has since pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor charge of trespassing, and he was sentenced to 90 days in jail.

April 5, 2019: The FBI arrested a 55-year-old man from upstate New York for allegedly threatening to kill Rep. Ilhan Omar, D-Minn., one of the first two Muslim women elected to the U.S. Congress. She is an outspoken critic of Trump, and Trump has frequently launched public attacks against her and three other female lawmakers of color. Two weeks before his arrest, Patrick Carlineo Jr. allegedly called Omar's office in Washington labeling the congresswoman a "terrorist" and declaring: "I'll put a bullet in her f----ing skull." When an FBI agent then traced the call to Carlineo and interviewed him, Carlineo "stated that he was a patriot, that he loves the President, and that he hates radical Muslims in our government," according to the FBI agent's summary of the interview. Federal prosecutors charged Carlineo with threatening to assault and murder a United States official. Carlineo is awaiting trial, although his defense attorney and federal prosecutors are working on what his attorney called another "possible resolution" of the case.

April 18, 2019: The FBI arrested John Joseph Kless of Tamarac, Florida, for calling the Washington offices of three prominent Democrats and threatening to kill each of them. At his home, authorities found a loaded handgun in a backpack, an AR-15 rifle and hundreds of rounds of ammunition. In later pleading guilty to one charge of transmitting threats over state lines, Kless admitted that in a threatening voicemail targeting Rep. Rashida Tlaib, D-Mich., he stated: "You won't f---ing tell Americans what to say, and you definitely don't tell our president, Donald Trump, what to say." Tlaib, a vocal critic of Trump, was scheduled to speak in Florida four days later. Kless was awaiting sentencing. In a letter to the federal judge, he said he "made a very big mistake," never meant to hurt anyone, and "was way out of line with my language and attitude."

April 24, 2019: The FBI arrested 30-year-old Matthew Haviland of North Kingstown, Rhode Island, for allegedly sending a series of violent and threatening emails to a college professor in Massachusetts who publicly expressed support for abortion rights and strongly criticized Trump. In one of 28 emails sent to the professor on March 10, 2019, Haviland allegedly called the professor "pure evil" and said "all Democrats must be eradicated," insisting the country now has "a president who's taking our country in a place of more freedom rather than less." In another email the same day, Haviland allegedly wrote the professor: "I will rip every limb from your body and … I will kill every member of your family." According to court documents, Haviland's longtime friend later told the FBI that "within the last year, Haviland's views regarding abortion and politics have become more extreme … at least in part because of the way the news media portrays President Trump." Haviland has been charged with cyberstalking and transmitting a threat in interstate commerce. His trial is pending.

June 5, 2019: The FBI arrested a Utah man for allegedly calling the U.S. Capitol more than 2,000 times over several months and threatening to kill Democratic lawmakers, whom he said were "trying to destroy Trump's presidency." "I am going to take up my second amendment right, and shoot you liberals in the head," 54-year-old Scott Brian Haven allegedly stated in one of the calls on Oct. 18, 2018, according to charging documents. When an FBI agent later interviewed Haven, he "explained the phone calls were made during periods of frustration with the way Democrats were treating President Trump," the charging documents said. The FBI visit, however, didn't stop Haven from making more threats, including: On March 21, 2019, he called an unidentified U.S. senator's office to say that if Democrats refer to Trump as Hitler again he will shoot them, and two days later he called an unidentified congressman's office to say he "was going to take [the congressman] out … because he is trying to remove a duly elected President." A federal grand jury has since charged Haven with one count of transmitting a threat over state lines. Haven pleaded not guilty and was awaiting trial.

But these are only some major ones.
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itsmeima




 
 
 
 

Post  Thu, Feb 13 2020, 7:57 pm
malki2 wrote:
You and the others are like a cat distracted like a laser pointer. It’s not the rhetoric that matters. It’s his policies. Focus on his policies for once.


It’s kind of hard not too... He creates so much noise!

He didn’t have to tweet about Roger Stone

He didn’t have to tweet about Bloomberg

He didn’t have to tweet about Cuomo

He didn’t have to tweet about John Kelly

Why all the noise? Why doesn’t he focus on policies?

For God's sake, he's the president - he should be bragging about his policies!

Barr couldn’t have said it better - his tweets ‘make it impossible for me to do my job’


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groisamomma




 
 
 
 

Post  Thu, Feb 13 2020, 8:07 pm
She's correct. Notice how Democrats will hound and hound negativity anytime theres a whiff of anything positive about Trump here.

Democrats are negative, divisive with no pride in our country. Sometimes I think if you're so ashamed to live here then please, by all means, move away and make room for immigrants trying to come legally.

Republicans are proud to live in the greatest country in the world.

#Trump2020
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sarahleah88




 
 
 
 

Post  Thu, Feb 13 2020, 8:09 pm
When will all of you realize that Donald Trump is a sick, sick man? When will you recognize who he really is? When will you acknowledge that there may possibly be “plants” on this very forum who are promoting another four years of this divisive, hateful and, frankly mentally ill person as president? Has nothing to do with party (Republican or Democrat) ......has to do with recognizing that Donald Trump is mentally unfit for office and a danger to our country and our national and international relationships!
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PinkFridge




 
 
 
 

Post  Thu, Feb 13 2020, 8:10 pm
sarahleah88 wrote:
When will all of you realize that Donald Trump is a sick, sick man? When will you recognize who he really is? When will you acknowledge that there may possibly be “plants” on this very forum who are promoting another four years of this divisive, hateful and, frankly mentally ill person as president? Has nothing to do with party (Republican or Democrat) ......has to do with recognizing that Donald Trump is mentally unfit for office and a danger to our country and our national and international relationships!


The Trump phenomenon is bizarre and historical.
But I am one of those who feel that positive things have happened the last four years, and the alternatives might just be worse.
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Post  Thu, Feb 13 2020, 8:12 pm
small bean wrote:
Trump brings unity, patriotism and enegy to a crowd. People accross the political specteum go because it is positive energy. That is what the article is saying. She is contrasting it to the negative energy the democrats bring, which is why trump draws huge crowds. You can argue from today to tomorrow but that is the facts on the ground.


Trunp is hugely popular with many and he is getting crowds. There are posters here who worship him as well.

The problem is that one the ways he brings unity amongst his supporters is by vilifying the rest of America. And that’s how he sows divisiveness. You can see it here by some of his supporters. And I fear that we won’t be able to mend this rift.
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Fox




 
 
 
 

Post  Thu, Feb 13 2020, 8:16 pm
SixOfWands wrote:
Roger Stone, convicted felon, by contrast, is a "good person."

Do you really want to use Roger Stone's show trial as an example? Think carefully.
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#BestBubby




 
 
 
 

Post  Thu, Feb 13 2020, 8:16 pm
sarahleah88 wrote:
When will all of you realize that Donald Trump is a sick, sick man? When will you recognize who he really is? When will you acknowledge that there may possibly be “plants” on this very forum who are promoting another four years of this divisive, hateful and, frankly mentally ill person as president? Has nothing to do with party (Republican or Democrat) ......has to do with recognizing that Donald Trump is mentally unfit for office and a danger to our country and our national and international relationships!


Sara Leah, do you realize that we have the BEST Economy in 50 years thanks to Trump?
That means Millions of People Lifted out of POVERTY - off welfare!

Don't you care that African Americans and Hispanics have more jobs and higher wages?

Don't you care that there has not bee any new wars started?

Don't you care that we have record breaking stock market that helps those saving for retirement? (401ks and Pension Plans)

And I hear plenty of "Hate" and "Divisiveness" spewing from DEMOCRATS who call every
Trump supporter Racist, Stupid, Deplorable, Bitter Clinger, etc.
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Fox




 
 
 
 

Post  Thu, Feb 13 2020, 8:20 pm
dancingqueen wrote:
And I fear that we won’t be able to mend this rift.

I am incredulous that anyone thinks this rift developed in 2015. Trump is a symptom, not a cause, and the inability or refusal of the left to see that has the potential to move us from a cold civil war to a hot one.
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Jeanette




 
 
 
 

Post  Thu, Feb 13 2020, 8:22 pm
Trump supporters are 40% of the country.

Where do they get off saying THEY are the real Americans and the rest of us are the enemy? What chutzpah.

He is opposed by 60% of the country.

We are the ones who love America, love the Constitution, love our freedoms, love truth and justice and will not stop fighting until this grave threat to our great union comes to an end.


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small bean




 
 
 
 

Post  Thu, Feb 13 2020, 8:24 pm
I've never been to a rally. But I dare all of you to go and feel the feeling. I don't think it will make you a trump supporter. After you go tell us about the positive energy and then go to any other Democrat rally and tell us about energy.

I don't think it's a reason to vote for somone but the contrast is stark from the rally's ive watchdd online.

Going to the rally is an enjoyable event. I'd love to go for the fun of it. But my husband will never stop making fun of me for spending chilling time at a political rally.
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Jeanette




 
 
 
 

Post  Thu, Feb 13 2020, 8:32 pm
I know people who went to a Trump rally. A nice Frum couple in their 70s. Trump supporters! But they came away saying that it was scary. The chanting, the screaming, the "lock her up!", encouraging the crowd to menace the press. The bizarre disjointed rantings. They did not come out feeling uplifted, energized or excited about this country. They came out sickened and disgusted.

Yes, I know, no Democrat who's running is a rockstar. I thought conservatives just wanted the most capable, qualified person for the job. I thought celebrity worship was a liberal thing. Conservatives worship G-d. I thought celebrities should keep their mouths shut and stay out of politics.
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Jeanette




 
 
 
 

Post  Thu, Feb 13 2020, 8:44 pm
SixOfWands wrote:
Presidential statements and tweets “about the [Justice] department, about people in the department, our men and women here, about cases pending here, and about judges before whom we have cases, make it impossible for me to do my job and to assure the courts and the prosecutors and the department that we’re doing our work with integrity.”

Attorney General William Barr


So, MAGAs, what say you about Bill Barr now? A brave freedom fighter? A traitor against the president? Part of the deep state?
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Cheiny




 
 
 
 

Post  Thu, Feb 13 2020, 8:56 pm
malki2 wrote:
The Democrat who wrote this article was very welcome at the rally. In contrast to people who get punched in the face and thrown out of restaurants for wearing MAGA hats. That’s why I posted the article. If you would like to discuss other things, please open your own thread.


So true!

itsmeima wrote:
It’s kind of hard not too... He creates so much noise!

He didn’t have to tweet about Roger Stone

He didn’t have to tweet about Bloomberg

He didn’t have to tweet about Cuomo

He didn’t have to tweet about John Kelly

Why all the noise? Why doesn’t he focus on policies?

For God's sake, he's the president - he should be bragging about his policies!

Barr couldn’t have said it better - his tweets ‘make it impossible for me to do my job’


What a weak argument. Is that all you got?

sarahleah88 wrote:
When will all of you realize that Donald Trump is a sick, sick man? When will you recognize who he really is? When will you acknowledge that there may possibly be “plants” on this very forum who are promoting another four years of this divisive, hateful and, frankly mentally ill person as president? Has nothing to do with party (Republican or Democrat) ......has to do with recognizing that Donald Trump is mentally unfit for office and a danger to our country and our national and international relationships!


Lol! Another post that makes clear how the term with the 3 leaders was borne! LOL LOL LOL

Fox wrote:
I am incredulous that anyone thinks this rift developed in 2015. Trump is a symptom, not a cause, and the inability or refusal of the left to see that has the potential to move us from a cold civil war to a hot one.


I’m wondering is she’s at all concerned about all the violence emanating from liberals against innocent conservatives, solely for their political views, or wearing a MAGA hat....but that’s all ok because when libs do it, it’s fine...and that they can actually say with a straight face that it’s the president who’s causes the rift is just so utterly dishonest it’s beyond words.


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Cheiny




 
 
 
 

Post  Thu, Feb 13 2020, 8:58 pm
Double post
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Cheiny




 
 
 
 

Post  Thu, Feb 13 2020, 9:06 pm
dancingqueen wrote:
Trunp is hugely popular with many and he is getting crowds. There are posters here who worship him as well.

The problem is that one the ways he brings unity amongst his supporters is by vilifying the rest of America. And that’s how he sows divisiveness. You can see it here by some of his supporters. And I fear that we won’t be able to mend this rift.


You couldn’t be more wrong. And these types of assumptions and false conclusions, without bothering to actually hear or accept from his supporters what the real attraction is, are the reasons why democrats are in such bad shape. They fail to realize that we are not fooled by the phony politically correct-speaking, crooked liars in their party, and we love the president because he is real, true to his word, and a patriot the likes of which can not be found among the dems. Today’s dem party is a party of self serving lowlifes, concerned only about their own power and careers, and couldn’t could care less about America and its citizens. They cry crocodile tears for illegal immigrants, pretending to feel sorry for them, when the truth is they only want their votes. Everything they do is to benefit themselves, not the American people. On top of that, the party contains and harbors blatant anti semites with nary a word of condemnation from the leaders.

If you think that’s better than what we have now, with the most successful president in US history, who has kept his promises, does only what’s best for this country without concern for being pc, and has been the best friend to Israel, and so much more, then I’d say that’s pretty sad and pretty inexplicable.
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Cheiny




 
 
 
 

Post  Thu, Feb 13 2020, 9:10 pm
Double post

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Cheiny




 
 
 
 

Post  Thu, Feb 13 2020, 9:13 pm
Jeanette wrote:
So, MAGAs, what say you about Bill Barr now? A brave freedom fighter? A traitor against the president? Part of the deep state?


The question is, what do YOU (and other liberals) have to say about him now? You all are known for hating anyone associated with the president UNTIL they say or do something that you actually agree with, and then suddenly you hold from him! Nancy Pelosi was just saying he should be Impeached!

So which one is it? Is he a liar and a crook deserving of impeachment? Or is he now suddenly worthy of your trust, because he made a comment about tweets?

Wow, how embarrassing.

Jeanette wrote:
Trump supporters are 40% of the country.

He is opposed by 60% of the country.

We are the ones who love America, love the Constitution, love our freedoms, love truth and justice and will not stop fighting until this grave threat to our great union comes to an end.


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