Monsey - free meals VENT

amother

Natural

Tue, May 12 2020, 9:48 am

amother [ Apricot ] wrote:

The only place you listed is the Lakewood scoop. You don't need to do a screenshot to simply list sources.
But I agree with cnc at this point, except I will add, I am concerned by your reckless posting convincing people of wild rumors and lead them to spending money they don't have.

Your continuing to ignore requests to give ANY source about the food money you claim is coming in, let's see, two and a half weeks, speaks volumes.

Where did I tell anyone to spend any money they don’t have. I said they are working to pass a bill to give parents up to $416 per child per month on a card that will have restrictions to be used for food for their kids. For some reasons you are trying to make me sound crazy. why?

I’m guessing you own a school and you don’t want anyone to know you got ppp so that you can’t double dip and force parents to pay full tuition. Otherwise why are you getting so upset that I’m letting everyone know what they are trying to pass. It’s in the works. Why are you getting so worked up about it? Hopefully it will pass and it will pass for all children regardless of income because that’s what they are trying to pass to help everyone.

amother

Apricot

Tue, May 12 2020, 9:57 am

No I don't own a school I work in a government position.
If you believe wild AOC type claims about what the government is planning on doing, more fool you.
No way is a bill being passed and implemented on such a massive scale in 2 weeks. It certainly isn't even a serious bill expecting to get passed because it hasn't been mentioned even in passing on cnn, fox, New York times, etc.

I am sorry for you that you are allowing yourself to be so gullible.
Unless you are playing this the way a lot of threads here play out, doing devils advocate on purpose. That's what I'm starting to think, the writing style is pretty recognizable. If so, I'm out.

amother

Aubergine

Tue, May 12 2020, 9:59 am

amother [ Natural ] wrote:

https://www.nj.gov/governor/news/news/562020/approved/20200511d.shtml

Here is one article. There are so many. Do a little research.

This is NOT what you have written. It is a reimbursement for children who were eligible for free or subsidized lunches for that period of time when schools were closed.

I am assuming this is because NJ did not implement a state wide grab and go program for children who would have normally received food.

Your original post implied that every child would be receiving $416 rather than what it actually appears to be which is a loosening of regulations so that funds that would ordinarily have paid for the food during March, April, May and June - e.g. during the school year - is now paid to children who would have gotten a free lunch.

This is a portion of the article you linked to - nowhere does it state that $416 per month will be given to every child:

Under the plan approved by the U.S. Department of Agriculture, New Jersey special Pandemic-EBT benefits will be provided to recipients of the state’s Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) and non-SNAP households with children who normally receive free or reduced-price school meals.

With federal approval, the Department will begin implementing the plan. The plan will provide each eligible student with $416.10 to help with nutritional support during the time that schools have been closed during the pandemic. No application is necessary to receive this benefit. Human Services is working with schools to identify students who were receiving free or reduced school meals. Eligible students already participating in SNAP will receive the Pandemic-EBT on their household’s existing Families First card. All other Pandemic-EBT eligible households will be mailed a P-EBT card. Human Services expects these benefits to be issued no later than June.

amother

Natural

Tue, May 12 2020, 10:01 am

amother [ Apricot ] wrote:

If you really work in a government program you would know that tons of people got ppp. I know a lot of businesses that got not just mine. Ppp wasn’t so difficult to get.
I’m still betting you work for a school.

But tine will tell we can wait and see if this is passed or not.

cnc

Tue, May 12 2020, 10:03 am

amother [ Natural ] wrote:

If you read it’s out there. I don’t know how to post picture so I can’t send screen shots but when it happens you will see it’s true. right now it’s a bill waiting to pass. You don’t have to believe it.

Next I applied for ppp way after pesach. There are criteria and certain business qualify and certain don’t. I applied after people on imamother said that they ran out of money but I still got it. So I guess Imamother was wrong.

There are so many lists of schools that received ppp if you look online you can see it. And ysv letter did state it’s because of ppp that they are giving a discount. So many business got helped I don’t know why you are pretending no one got helped. So many businesses got the $10,000 grant plus the ppp.

There was a second round . If you applied way after Pesach then you got from the second round.

Again, just because schools (or any business ) got the PPP loan, doesn’t mean they’re eligible for forgiveness. They got a loan - as simple as that.
Nobody has tried to apply for forgiveness yet, so you don’t actually know who made money. Loans need to be repaid.

Unfortunately, it seems that forgiveness is way way more complicated than it was made to be when details of the program were announced.

amother

Natural

Tue, May 12 2020, 10:03 am

amother [ Aubergine ] wrote:

This is NOT what you have written. It is a reimbursement for children who were eligible for free or subsidized lunches for that period of time when schools were closed.

I am assuming this is because NJ did not implement a state wide grab and go program for children who would have normally received food.

Your original post implied that every child would be receiving $416 rather than what it actually appears to be which is a loosening of regulations so that funds that would ordinarily have paid for the food during March, April, May and June - e.g. during the school year - is now paid to children who would have gotten a free lunch.

Under the plan approved by the U.S. Department of Agriculture, New Jersey special Pandemic-EBT benefits will be provided to recipients of the state’s Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) and non-SNAP households with children who normally receive free or reduced-price school meals.

With federal approval, the Department will begin implementing the plan. The plan will provide each eligible student with $416.10 to help with nutritional support during the time that schools have been closed during the pandemic. No application is necessary to receive this benefit. Human Services is working with schools to identify students who were receiving free or reduced school meals. Eligible students already participating in SNAP will receive the Pandemic-EBT on their household’s existing Families First card. All other Pandemic-EBT eligible households will be mailed a P-EBT card. Human Services expects these benefits to be issued no later than June.

It’s many states and New Jersey was the first state to issue the grab n go program. The New Jersey public schools are also doing it for the non Jews it’s not only for Jews.

Plus they are working to
Give to all children it’s in the works. Just wait and we will see if it passes.

amother

Aubergine

Tue, May 12 2020, 10:04 am

amother [ Natural ] wrote:

If you go back to your original posts, you stated that it would be $416 per child PER MONTH without any limitations.

You posted an article in which it said that children who were receiving free lunches in New Jersey would receive a one time payment of $416 to compensate for the food that would have been received during the school term.

It is not a question of it being passed - it is New Jersey negotiating with the School Lunch Program so that the money already allocated for food for free lunches is spent in another way. By the way $416 for lunches for three months isn't a lot of money. Reimbursement for a school lunch for free lunches is about $3.75 so just multiply by the number of days lunch wasn't provided to needy kids in many locations.

Do you not understand how your posts are not believable because you don't even post accurate interpretations of what you are reading.

cnc

Tue, May 12 2020, 10:04 am

amother [ Natural ] wrote:

Lol- you really need to stop reading random Google articles and posting them as though you have valid inside information that the rest of us don't .....

amother

Natural

Tue, May 12 2020, 3:11 pm

amother [ Aubergine ] wrote:

It’s not a one time payment and it’s not back pay: I don’t know what you are saying. This is going to be monthly instead of schools
Supplying lunches.

There is no back pay bec until now the school supplies lunches no money is owed.

And schools in New Jersey are getting $6 per meal and schools in New York are getting reimbursed $7.50 a meal. Where did you get $3 or a little more than that per meal thats very low.

amother

Aubergine

Tue, May 12 2020, 3:27 pm

amother [ Natural ] wrote:

The amount of $3.75 is what the Federal government pays to a school district or school for a free lunch. This is information that you can obtain by looking at the Federal guidelines for free and/or subsidized lunch payments. Of course that would require that you have normal reading comprehension skills. Very Happy

This is taken directly from the article you posted. It is clear that it is a one time payment to families whose children receive free lunch in New Jersey to compensate them for the amount of time school has been closed - from mid-March through the end of June.

How are you interpreting that as monthly payment to everyone starting in June?

From your link

"With federal approval, the Department will begin implementing the plan. The plan will provide each eligible student with $416.10 to help with nutritional support during the time that schools have been closed during the pandemic. No application is necessary to receive this benefit. Human Services is working with schools to identify students who were receiving free or reduced school meals. Eligible students already participating in SNAP will receive the Pandemic-EBT on their household’s existing Families First card. All other Pandemic-EBT eligible households will be mailed a P-EBT card. Human Services expects these benefits to be issued no later than June."

amother

Ginger

Tue, May 12 2020, 3:50 pm

amother [ Natural ] wrote:

What happened with the PPP loan is that they ran out of money very quickly. Then another bill was passed making more money available for the loan. So the amothers who wrote that they ran out were correct.

Also, there are a lot of rules and regulations regarding the loan forgiveness. It is especially complicated for schools. And the SBA hasn't figured it all out yet. So nobody knows all the details and everyone is trying to do their best to follow the rules that haven't been established.

I was on a webinar yesterday given by Roth & co in conjunction with Aguda and their specialists, who are dealing straight with the top people at the SBA, werent able to answer a lot of the questions because the guidelines haven't been finalized yet.

So it's not quite as simple as you're making it sound. I hope you have a good CPA helping you with your loan forgiveness so that you dont end up with a problem.

amother

Natural

Tue, May 12 2020, 4:08 pm

amother [ Aubergine ] wrote:

I actually know someone in the school system who said that he is reimbursed $6 per meal. So no need for insults that is how much all schools are getting. Usually when someone’s resorts to insults is because they are afraid someone is saying something they don’t want people to believe but I am getting my information from a school that is providing the free lunches to all.

They said that in New York the schools are luckier because New York gives $7.50 per meal and it adds up the extra $1.50.

amother

Natural

Tue, May 12 2020, 4:11 pm

amother [ Ginger ] wrote:

The rules of ppp loan is that you must use 75 percent of the amount that your received for ppp for your payroll and from
The date that you got it you have another eight weeks. Since I’m paying my employees since March and now I have until July I totally qualify. It’s not so difficult though you put are trying to make it sound so difficult when it’s so simple.

cnc

Tue, May 12 2020, 4:40 pm

amother [ Natural ] wrote:

amazing

The top accounting firms and accountants are telling us how complicated it is and that schools that haven’t done it yet should think long and hard and not run to do it- yet you're so bent on telling us how simple it is and we’re making it complicated for no reason ...

Please return back to us once you file for and GET forgiveness.

I love how you just summed up pages and pages of rules that even the government doesn’t have clarity on into two sentences.

amother

Natural

Tue, May 12 2020, 4:53 pm

cnc wrote:

Do you want to tell me what is so difficult. Did you actually apply for it and receive it or are you Actually talking about it through hearsay? Which accountant said that it’s so difficult I’m hearing school
Owners saying how lucky they are they can get it.

cnc

Tue, May 12 2020, 4:58 pm

amother [ Natural ] wrote:

I work for a school. Our financial advisor is a top CPA. We discussed our options and based on different things we did not apply for it. We were in touch with other schools as well.

If you want specific accountants or financial advisors - just do some reading in LinkedIN if you’re active there...

Roth and Co as well as the Agudah have done webinars as well....

Again, besides for the difficulties in actually obtaining the money, we’re more concerned about the (non) forgiveness aspect.

amother

Natural

Tue, May 12 2020, 5:33 pm

cnc wrote:

So let me ask you this why wouldn’t you apply and then don’t use the money until you are sure it’s forgivable? What’s so complicated about that many people are doing that? Just leave it in your account but why would you give up on so much money?

cnc

Tue, May 12 2020, 5:37 pm

amother [ Natural ] wrote:

How are you supposed to know if it’s forgivable until you try applying and get rejected ?!

And if I leave it in my account, how can I prove that it was spent on payroll?? By falsifying pay stubs?!

That might work for people that already have the amount of money they received to use at their disposal, but not for the businesses that don’t have that money to spend !