Dr Ditchek-Clear cases of reinfection in frum comm,new cases

Mama Bear

Mon, Aug 24 2020, 8:01 pm

amother [ OP ] wrote:

Ok.
There is a limit to how long after we can say that they are shedding old dead cells. The overall consensus in the medical world is a couple of weeks.
Not 5 months.

My cousin who had covid in March still tested positive in mid June. Covid stays in the body for a long time, inactive. It's almost like a herpes type virus, it stays inactive in a person's body. That probably accounts for some of the longish-term immunity we are experiencing. When a person is no longer symptomatic their covid cells are not contagious anymore! The person cited here had no coronavirus symptoms when he came up positive.

Also, these tests are unreliable. There have been many people who tested positive one day, negative the next. It makes little sense.

amother

Azure

Mon, Aug 24 2020, 8:14 pm

Mama Bear wrote:

COVID19 is not a herpes like virus. That would create the opposite of an immunity response. Sometimes leftover dead viral particles may test positive on less specific tests. Yes, we need precautions for large gatherings like Rosh Hashana and Yom Kippur IYH.

amother

Chartreuse

Mon, Aug 24 2020, 10:29 pm

From Journal of Infection
The dilemma of COVID-19 recurrence after clinical recovery

Published:August 15, 2020DOI:https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jinf.2020.08.019

https://www.journalofinfection.....-4453(20)30553-3/fulltext

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A total of 1146 patients were hospitalized and then discharged for COVID-19 in our hospitals during the time-frame considered. Among these, 125 (10.9%) had a recurrence of COVID-19 infection. Table 1 summarized the clinical and demographic characteristics of this population; mean age was 65,7 years (95% CI 26-95) and most of patients were primarily hospitalized for interstitial pneumonia (n=103, 82.4%). The mean time to clinical recovery and two negative nasopharyngeal swabs was 27.7 days (95% CI 11-51); after that, the mean time to recurrence was 19.9 days (95% CI 3-43). Recurrence of COVID-19 infection was mainly diagnosed by chance during follow-up surveillance (n=96, 76.8%), whereas 29 patients (23.2%) developed clinical symptoms (fever in 16, malaise/fatigue in 9 and respiratory failure in 4 patients). After a mean time of 14.8 days (95% CI 6-36), 102 subjects (81.6%) had two additional negative nasopharyngeal swabs and were considered clinically recovered for the second time. During follow-up, 11 patients (8.8%) died and 12 (9.6%) were still positive when database was closed. Patients who died were older than others (mean age 86.4 years, 95% CI 77-92) and 8 of them (72.7%) had clinical symptoms at the time of recurrence (4 fever and 4 respiratory failure). The mean time from recurrence of COVID-19 infection to death was 8 days (95% CI 5-11).