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greenfire




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Oct 02 2008, 3:03 pm
miriamf - please explain further ... then why do people wear it for their husbands if it has nothing to do with s-xual arousal ...
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gonewiththewind




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Oct 02 2008, 3:08 pm
greenfire wrote:
miriamf - please explain further ... then why do people wear it for their husbands if it has nothing to do with s-xual arousal ...


Sure it can cause s-xual arousal, and it does enhance attraction for many (most?) people. I meant the ISSUR is not dependent on s-xual arousal. That it is forbidden for a man to smell a woman's perfume whether or not he gets all turned on by it or not.
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Ruchel




 
 
    
 

Post Fri, Oct 03 2008, 6:06 am
Mollys Mama wrote:
There is definitely an assur of wearing perfume when your not clean I guess theres a reason for that. Our Rabbis know better...


this is ONE opinion, not THE opinion
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Ruchel




 
 
    
 

Post Fri, Oct 03 2008, 6:07 am
Mimisinger wrote:

People need to worry about themselves first. Yes, I believe perfume is an attracter, but why do women think men are such animals? If they're animals, they need to learn to control themselves. If they're bnai torah, there shouldn't be a prob.


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Ruchel




 
 
    
 

Post Fri, Oct 03 2008, 6:08 am
Clarissa wrote:
something redolent of musk/Springtime/amour.


This is a word in English?
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Ruchel




 
 
    
 

Post Fri, Oct 03 2008, 6:12 am
amother wrote:
I didn't have a moral compass telling me how to behave like a bas melech


You need the Torah to know it's inappropriate to treat people and yourself like that?
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Clarissa




 
 
    
 

Post Fri, Oct 03 2008, 6:42 am
Ruchel wrote:
Clarissa wrote:
something redolent of musk/Springtime/amour.


This is a word in English?
No, I was waxing romantic. What is more romantic than French, chéri?
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Ruchel




 
 
    
 

Post Fri, Oct 03 2008, 6:46 am
Yes, mon amour, ma chériE LOL
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Clarissa




 
 
    
 

Post Fri, Oct 03 2008, 6:49 am
Oops! Four years of French (or was it three?) and I can't speak a word. Je suis terrible.
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Lady Godiva




 
 
    
 

Post Fri, Oct 03 2008, 6:53 am
Amour
American Heritage Dictionary - a·mour (ə-mŏŏr')
n. A love affair, especially an illicit one.


[Middle English, from Old French, from Old Provençal, from Latin amor, love; see amorous.]
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greenfire




 
 
    
 

Post Fri, Oct 03 2008, 6:56 am
lol my friend called from france and all I could say was bonjoir ...
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Ruchel




 
 
    
 

Post Fri, Oct 03 2008, 7:03 am
Lady Godiva wrote:
Amour
American Heritage Dictionary - a·mour (ə-mŏŏr')
n. A love affair, especially an illicit one.


[Middle English, from Old French, from Old Provençal, from Latin amor, love; see amorous.]


interesting!

Should it be am-ur, then?
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Lady Godiva




 
 
    
 

Post Fri, Oct 03 2008, 7:06 am
I guess that's how it's pronouced, Ruchel.
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Clarissa




 
 
    
 

Post Fri, Oct 03 2008, 7:08 am
greenfire wrote:
lol my friend called from france and all I could say was bonjoir ...
I hope you remembered au revoir, or your friend might still be waiting.
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Ruchel




 
 
    
 

Post Fri, Oct 03 2008, 7:09 am
Lady Godiva wrote:
I guess that's how it's pronouced, Ruchel.


In French it is ah-moor. In English, who knows?? uh-muhr? ay-moor? lol
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Lady Godiva




 
 
    
 

Post Fri, Oct 03 2008, 7:10 am
Uh-more.
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greenfire




 
 
    
 

Post Fri, Oct 03 2008, 7:14 am
Clarissa wrote:
greenfire wrote:
lol my friend called from france and all I could say was bonjoir ...
I hope you remembered au revoir, or your friend might still be waiting.


while it was 4 am her time I was relieved she hadn't forgotten her english ... my only french class consisted of french 2 for about 3 days till I convinced the principal I cannot sit in that class w/o french 1 ... pero yo hablar un poquito espanol Wink
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mamacita




 
 
    
 

Post Sat, Oct 04 2008, 2:40 pm
miriamf wrote:
It is really irrelevant if people feel perfume will cause men or other creatures to salivate over you and excite burning passion. I personally think it will not, but that is irrelevant too. It is a halacha that it is assur for a man to smell a woman's perfume (whether or not he is aroused by it.) People who are matir say it should be subtle and not in your face (or nose) and then they feel it is OK. Though people here will argue, it is pretty clear that one who wishes to be careful not to cause someone to violate halacha by smelling her perfume will not wear it, though sure you can find some heterim around. The issur is not that a man will get s-xually aroused; it is assur for him to smell it. The Rabbonim I "hold by" find the heterim shvach, but anyway my husband has asked me not to wear perfume out of the house. I was surprised at first, but he did show me the halacha inside, and after looking into it, I had to agree.


Thank you miriamf! I said this on page one but I don't have a yummy cupcake as an avatar so I was ignored Sad
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debs123




 
 
    
 

Post Sat, Oct 04 2008, 3:14 pm
Since we don't wear perfume while being a niddah, I feel uncomfortable making such a loud announcement of my status with DH on that particular day. (We keep all harchokos in public - ) What I do though is on non niddah days, I wear my perfume's deodorant - same nice smell - much less strong - just a nice feeling and reminder between DH and myself that it's "on time".
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Crayon210




 
 
    
 

Post Sat, Oct 04 2008, 10:22 pm
Why is wearing or not wearing perfume a loud announcement of your status?

How much deodorant do you put on that your husband can smell it?
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