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Do you pronounce it the same?
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ay-del may-del |
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89% |
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ay-del my-del |
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4% |
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y-del may-del |
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0% |
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y-del my-del |
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3% |
[ 5 ] |
the mysterious, ubiquitous, other |
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2% |
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Ruchel
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Mon, Jun 04 2018, 7:59 am
Just a poll inspired by a discussions! lol
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Ruchel
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Mon, Jun 04 2018, 10:59 am
Thank you!
I'm now curious, do you always pronounce those words so, or make them rhyme on purpose?
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Mommyg8
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Mon, Jun 04 2018, 11:32 am
I think that litvishe havara would be aydel maydel, and Chassidish havarah would be eydel meydel.
In any case, I wouldn't pronounce it anything at all, as in my circles, it is considered an insult.
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BadTichelDay
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Mon, Jun 04 2018, 12:49 pm
As in my circles nobody speaks Yiddish, I have to ask it: what does it really mean? Closest I get to is, noble or refined girl. Does it have other connotations?
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thunderstorm
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Mon, Jun 04 2018, 1:08 pm
Mommyg8 wrote: | I think that litvishe havara would be aydel maydel, and Chassidish havarah would be eydel meydel.
In any case, I wouldn't pronounce it anything at all as in my circles, it is considered an insult. |
Insult? I always thought it as a compliment! Why insult?
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smile12345
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Mon, Jun 04 2018, 1:19 pm
thunderstorm wrote: | Insult? I always thought it as a compliment! Why insult? |
I guess it depends who it's used by. When used by teens to describe a peer of theirs, I think it would be equivalent to calling someone a goody goody.
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Mommyg8
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Mon, Jun 04 2018, 1:20 pm
thunderstorm wrote: | Insult? I always thought it as a compliment! Why insult? |
I guess it depends on the circle you're in .
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Ruchel
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Mon, Jun 04 2018, 1:23 pm
Mommyg8 wrote: | I think that litvishe havara would be aydel maydel, and Chassidish havarah would be eydel meydel.
In any case, I wouldn't pronounce it anything at all as in my circles, it is considered an insult. |
Sorry which sound is which? I have a hard time with English sounds lol
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Mommyg8
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Mon, Jun 04 2018, 1:25 pm
Ruchel wrote: | Sorry which sound is which? I have a hard time with English sounds lol |
litvish havarah - tzeirei is ay as bake, chassidish havarah tzerei is ey as in fight? Does that make sense?
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Iymnok
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Mon, Jun 04 2018, 3:06 pm
I’d pronounce it as eidel meidle.
Spelling or with ay makes me read it sounding like eye-del while I feel that the end of both words should be pronounced as -dle. Like the second syllable in middle. But spelled that way would cause one to pronounce it as ey-de-leh (eidle).
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smileforamile
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Mon, Jun 04 2018, 6:46 pm
Delete
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PinkFridge
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Mon, Jun 04 2018, 9:31 pm
Mommyg8 wrote: | I think that litvishe havara would be aydel maydel, and Chassidish havarah would be eydel meydel.
In any case, I wouldn't pronounce it anything at all as in my circles, it is considered an insult. |
IOW, Litvish are long a, Chassidish long I?
All of which reminds me, what do you call a Bais Yaakov girl on a motorcycle?
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petiteruchy
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Mon, Jun 04 2018, 9:51 pm
Belz girls say long a - ay-del may-del, as in aid. I don't speak Yiddish so I don't have my own way of saying it.
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penguin
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Mon, Jun 04 2018, 9:57 pm
Oy, PF, I wanted to go to sleep, do I have to hang around here until you tell us? Hint?
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zaq
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Mon, Jun 04 2018, 10:05 pm
PinkFridge wrote: | what do you call a
Bais Yaakov girl on a motorcycle? |
Belle on wheels?
A Belz Angel?
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PinkFridge
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Tue, Jun 05 2018, 8:06 am
I can't believe no one heard this.
A shonda on a Honda.
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zaq
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Tue, Jun 05 2018, 9:38 am
PinkFridge wrote: | I can't believe no one heard this.
A shonda on a Honda. |
I was thinking Harleys and Hogs.
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LiLIsraeli
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Tue, Jun 05 2018, 10:46 am
PinkFridge wrote: | I can't believe no one heard this.
A shonda on a Honda. |
That's funny! I've never heard that one before.
IMO, it wouldn't make sense for someone to pronounce the tzerei differently two times in the same phrase. If you speak litvish Yiddish you would say "aydel maydel" - ay as in pay. If you speak chassidish Yiddish you would say "eidel meidel" with the sound of eye. But never two different sounds (ay and eye) in the same phrase.
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zaq
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Tue, Jun 05 2018, 5:23 pm
LiLIsraeli wrote: |
IMO, it wouldn't make sense for someone to pronounce the tzerei differently two times in the same phrase. If you speak litvish Yiddish you would say "aydel maydel" - ay as in pay. If you speak chassidish Yiddish you would say "eidel meidel" with the sound of eye. But never two different sounds (ay and eye) in the same phrase. |
This. Unless they were latecomers to Yiddish, having not heard it at home, and kept company with people of diverse background, so they got confused. My bff is like that. Parents American-born Litvaks, but didn’t speak Yiddish with the kids except for a phrase here and there. Folks in shul from all over the place but most saying Ines, zwigh, dry as opposed to Anes, Tzvay, Dry. So she’ll say Anes, Tzvay, Dray, e.g. She might totally say Idle Maydel.
But maybe she’s referring to her dd. The girl IS a bit lazy.
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