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amother
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amother
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Sat, Dec 12 2020, 5:56 pm
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Old lady like it’s an embarrassing name? Or old lady like it’s still sort of acceptable? Like in America there are old lady names that are becoming more trendy like Eleanor and Alice and names like that. Whereas a name like Gertrude in America is still old lady, and it would be odd if a baby now were named Gertrude.
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amother
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Sat, Dec 12 2020, 7:16 pm
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amother
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Sat, Dec 12 2020, 8:59 pm
| amother [ Cobalt ] wrote: | | https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wgYAb_6tbiA |
I'm not quite sure why you posted this. Are you saying the name has become completely associated with a cartoon duck?
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amother
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Sat, Dec 12 2020, 9:28 pm
Aliza is more like Mildred than Eleanor. I don't think it's come back into use. It's a grandmother name. I know one little girl named Aliza, but that's it.
I think it's a perfectly lovely name, but very much not in fashion.
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amother
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Sat, Dec 12 2020, 9:39 pm
IMO outdated but acceptable. No more "old-ladyish" than Chana or Leah. If you like it, go for it.
I know two younger Aliza's but they are Russians who have a very similar sounding Russian name (I think Alisa).
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essie14
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Sat, Dec 12 2020, 9:49 pm
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I wouldn't say it's quite like Mildred but it's considered "shem shel savta " aka an old lady name. I dont think a child will be made fun of but it's not a popular name
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Iymnok
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Sat, Dec 12 2020, 10:03 pm
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That’s amusing! Two of my DD's have an Aliza in their class, ages 4 and 11. (We’re chareidi)
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etky
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Sat, Dec 12 2020, 10:09 pm
| essie14 wrote: | | I wouldn't say it's quite like Mildred but it's considered "shem shel savta " aka an old lady name. I dont think a child will be made fun of but it's not a popular name |
Agree.
And Aliza is not a name 'from the sources' so it doesn't have that cache either.
Furthermore, there are so, so many more modern takes on the theme of happiness and gaiety that people prefer nowadays.
Still, it's such a well known, ubiquitous name (among older generations though) that I don't think a child will be made fun of.
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amother
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Sat, Dec 12 2020, 10:10 pm
| Iymnok wrote: | | That’s amusing! Two of my DD's have an Aliza in their class, ages 4 and 11. (We’re chareidi) |
Someone needs to do a sociological study of names. In my very limited experience, I'll see a name become popular in secular Israel, and about 15 years later, it makes its way into the dati leumi world. Ten years after that, Modern Orthodox Jews in chutz la'aretz are using it, followed a few years later by the American yeshivish crowd, and then finally the name makes it into Israeli charedi circles. Ronit, Aviva, Ahuva, Leora, and Noa all seem (again, just to me) to follow this trajectory.
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amother
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Sat, Dec 12 2020, 10:17 pm
| etky wrote: | Agree.
And Aliza is not a name 'from the sources' so it doesn't have that cache either.
Furthermore, there are so, so many more modern takes on the theme of happiness and gaiety that people prefer nowadays.
Still, it's such a well known, ubiquitous name (among older generations though) that I don't think a child will be made fun of. |
What are some more modern happiness names?
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mandksima
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Sat, Dec 12 2020, 10:41 pm
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Just asked my 9 year old. She doesn't know anyone named it in school. Only an older woman.
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EBY
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Sat, Dec 12 2020, 10:49 pm
More modern happiness names:
Gili
Roni (crazy popular, with stress on either the first or second syllable, depending of you want it to me "my joy" or "go and be happy")
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essie14
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Sat, Dec 12 2020, 10:53 pm
| Iymnok wrote: | | That’s amusing! Two of my DD's have an Aliza in their class, ages 4 and 11. (We’re chareidi) |
Yes, names in DL circles are very diff than chareidi circles.
These are the girls in my DDs gan
Liel
Emunah
Ya'ara
Hodaya
Noa (x2)
Noga
Adi
Renanna
Tamar
Cant remember any aliza's in older DDs class at all.
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essie14
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Sat, Dec 12 2020, 10:54 pm
| EBY wrote: | I also forgot:
Tagel |
Did you mean Tahel ?
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essie14
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Sat, Dec 12 2020, 10:56 pm
| EBY wrote: | More modern happiness names:
Gili
Roni (crazy popular, with stress on either the first or second syllable, depending of you want it to me "my joy" or "go and be happy") |
Yes, Roni is super popular.
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etky
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Sat, Dec 12 2020, 11:09 pm
| essie14 wrote: | | Did you mean Tahel ? |
They are two separate names.
Tahel is a 'light' name.
Tagel is a 'joy' name, from the same root as Gila.
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