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nosher




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Jan 29 2024, 10:13 am
My challah doughs rise beautifully after braiding but when I take them out of the oven they did not continue to rise and may even have deflated.

Some info: I let braided dough rise up to an hour. I preheat oven to 350 degrees and then higher the temperature to 400-415 for ten minutes before lowering to 350 for the remainder of baking.

All suggestions welcome. Thank you!


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AlwaysThinking




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Jan 29 2024, 10:19 am
I find you don't really want them to rise much more in the oven or they will split open. Better that they've done most of their rising beforehand. Maybe reduce the rising time before putting them in the oven? They should be just doubled, could be an hour is too long.
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Comptroller




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Jan 29 2024, 10:21 am
nosher wrote:
My challah doughs rise beautifully after braiding but when I take them out of the oven they did not continue to rise and may even have deflated.

Some info: I let braided dough rise up to an hour. I preheat oven to 350 degrees and then higher the temperature to 400-415 for ten minutes before lowering to 350 for the remainder of baking.

All suggestions welcome. Thank you!


That's too long, so it is overproofed. 30 min max for the longest. so once I am done braiding, I heat the oven and put them in.
The oven has to be on max heat before you put the challos in. I preheat on max (275° C) before I open the oven to put the challos in and then go down to 230°C when actually baking.
Steam helps, I put water on an empty oven sheet under the challos once the oven is hot before I add the challos.
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shira leah




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Jan 29 2024, 10:22 am
Yeast only has so much oomph to it.

I think you are overproofing your braided loaves. Check with a poke test- when you poke the dough, you want it to spring back slowly, leaving a small indent. If it doesn't spring back or leaves a large mark, it's overproofed.
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nosher




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Jan 29 2024, 10:22 am
They are not rising in the oven. I put them into the oven at 350 and then higher the temp to 415 for ten minutes before lowering to 350.
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Reality




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Jan 29 2024, 10:22 am
I have started putting my challos in the oven right after braiding with no second rise. They come out looking picture perfect! I place into preheated oven 200C until golden.
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nosher




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Jan 29 2024, 10:24 am
Thanks for the replies. I hope to bake today and will try your advice!
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ShishKabob




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Jan 29 2024, 11:01 am
I put them in a cold oven after rising for an hour. I don't find that it deflates. If it deflates its probably overrisen and needs to be at a steady high temperature . Hope it comes out terrific inside and out!
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oneofakind




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Jan 29 2024, 11:02 am
400 is too high and would stop any further rising. Keep it at 350 until done.
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nosher




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Jan 29 2024, 5:58 pm
The challos came out beautiful! Thanks for the advice.
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