Non accredited B.A- can’t get into masters?

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amother

Sun, May 26 2024, 9:13 pm

My husband got a non accredited BA connected to his yeshiva and then got a master’s degree from a well know university that partners with this yeshiva.
He is working in that field but now wants to get another master’s degree to add to his skill set.
He applied and was told that since his ba is non accredited he can’t get in. (The fact that he already has an accredited masters makes no difference they need a ba)
Is there anything to do about this? Any online programs that would take non accredited ba’s?
Any frum programs that take it?
Looking for any type of mental health therapy degree. Please respond with any suggestions!

amother

Turquoise

Sun, May 26 2024, 9:31 pm

How would another masters add to his skill set?

I have friends who had medical degrees who then went on to get an MBA so they could become hospital administrators - is this what you mean?

amother

Sun, May 26 2024, 9:33 pm

He’s a great teacher and the school that he works in would be interested in having him do part time student counseling.

amother

Pansy

Sun, May 26 2024, 9:37 pm

Can he transfer his yeshiva credits to one of the jewish programs like TTI, Excelsior, or even a yeshivah with an accredited BA?

If he is missing some credits, he can probably clep most of them or take the TTI tests.

That way he can have an accredited BA and go anywhere. Its a hassle but may be easier than finding a school to accept a non accredited BA.

amother

Turquoise

Sun, May 26 2024, 9:41 pm

amother OP wrote:

He’s a great teacher and the school that he works in would be interested in having him do part time student counseling.

The possible issue is that a masters in counseling is a form of clinical psychology which generally requires very specific undergraduate course work. It is probably quite a competitive program

A masters in teaching is completely different in terms of the requirements as well as the competitive nature of getting into a program.

Many teachers get a masters in education while they are working - it's quite easy to get into one of he programs in general.

Bleemee

Sun, May 26 2024, 9:48 pm

What does a non-accredited degree mean?

amother

Mon, May 27 2024, 10:03 am

It means that the institution that gave the degree was missing part of the education or curriculum requirements, or never went through the process of obtaining the necessary official recognition and therefore the degree can’t easily be transferred to other colleges

amother

Darkblue

Mon, May 27 2024, 10:05 am

Maybe he can fill in the missing courses. Call TTI to see if they can help.

amother

Mon, May 27 2024, 10:07 am

So it’s not missing courses, they would have taken his B.A in education, just that the actual degree he has is non accredited and can’t be transferred to most colleges.

amother

Darkblue

Mon, May 27 2024, 10:28 am

Maybe you can use a number of credits from the non accredited BA. You can't lose from calling TTI.

amother

Mon, May 27 2024, 10:30 am

Yes, TTI is a good idea. Thanks.

advocate

Mon, May 27 2024, 10:42 am

Yeshivalearningexperience.com

Check it out!

advocate

Mon, May 27 2024, 11:07 am

https://theyiep.com/new/degree.....g-ms/

https://sarasch.com/mens-progr.....work/

amother

Magenta

Mon, May 27 2024, 12:11 pm

Bellevue University, online program.
I know someone in masters program for health science who got in with a b.a from Yashiva.
It's online, men only frum program. It's pretty intense work for a few years.

Bleemee

Mon, May 27 2024, 12:30 pm

amother OP wrote:

So what makes it a degree?

Amarante

Mon, May 27 2024, 12:55 pm

Bleemee wrote:

So what makes it a degree?

Accreditation means that an impartial third party has verified that it meets certain standard s which indicate that the degree can be recognized by other institutions as having intellectual and academic merit.

Here is an explanation

https://www.columbiasouthern.e.....tant/

amother

Springgreen

Mon, May 27 2024, 12:59 pm

Amarante wrote:

Right. That's the issue with some of the frum college programs. Not all graduate programs/schools accept degrees from all of them. I know a couple of people who needed to go to different graduate programs than the ones they planned to originally, which did end up affecting their career path. In the long run, I don't think it made much of a difference. They are all working at professional type jobs and seem satisfied. But if there's a certain path or program you want to follow, it's worth making sure that everything is lined up.

amother

Cyclamen

Mon, May 27 2024, 1:21 pm

Is he going to be working at a Yeshiva, does he really need an accredited degree? Maybe he can take some online classes and get some certification. How important is a real degree from a real school anyway?

Fox

Tue, May 28 2024, 11:32 am

Lots of good suggestions.

Universities have a lot discretion in admissions; they just don't like to advertise the fact. I've known people who were admitted to highly competitive programs with degrees from unaccredited yeshivas or other unusual circumstances. It's not impossible; it just requires a different approach.

Universities are rightfully concerned that a student whom they admit will be capable of finishing the degree. So the trick is to reassure them.

One way to do that is with test scores. If the program requires the GMAT, GRE, or some other test, an excellent score can convince them to accept a student who might not otherwise qualify.

Another way is to address their concern head-on. Prepare a portfolio that explains the accomplishments of someone learning full-time in yeshiva. Explain the hours required and the dedication needed. Get additional letters of recommendation explaining why your husband would be a good candidate.

Be prepared to be a bit more tenacious. Your husband may have to file an appeal or try applying to several different programs. But if he's pleasant and forthright, chances are good that he'll be accepted.

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