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southernbubby
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Tue, Feb 02 2021, 9:19 am
Apparently the new variants can infect people who have immunity to the original infection as a result of having had the virus. These vaccines need to be administered before these strains become dominant. The bad weather is slowing down the process but hopefully it means that for a day or two, people were not able to spread the virus because they were stuck in their houses. This will probably be reflected in lower positivity rates over the next two weeks.
Israel has had thousands of side effects reported out of the millions of doses given but most of them recovered. A 19 year old boy is in the ICU with myocarditis, possibly caused by the vaccine.
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amother
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Tue, Feb 02 2021, 4:42 pm
Just bumping this in case anyone would like to see the numbers.
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Goldenrod
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Tue, Feb 02 2021, 5:24 pm
amother [ OP ] wrote: | If this was the case here, the trial participants would be experiencing this now. They're not. |
They stopped following the trial participants after two months
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amother
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Tue, Feb 02 2021, 5:27 pm
amother [ Goldenrod ] wrote: | They stopped following the trial participants after two months |
I don't know where you heard that but it's not true. From pfizer news release:
All trial participants will continue to be monitored to assess long-term protection and safety for an additional two years after their second dose.
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Bronze
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Tue, Feb 02 2021, 6:31 pm
Thanks OP. Any statistics on pregnant women who took the vaccineo?
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Wheat
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Tue, Feb 02 2021, 6:48 pm
LovesHashem wrote: | Just because someone died a few days after getting the vaccine doesn't mean it's from the vaccine. People die every day, it can be a total coincidence. |
Is it also a coincidence when people die a few days after a covid diagnosis?
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amother
Violet
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Tue, Feb 02 2021, 6:57 pm
amother [ OP ] wrote: |
As of 12 days ago, 196 in the US people died after getting a vaccine. 129 of those patients were in long term care facilities. This is the same number of deaths that would normally occur in this percentage of the population within this time frame.
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The same is true of covid itself. It kills people by age group at rates similar to the natural mortality rates for those age groups.
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amother
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Tue, Feb 02 2021, 6:58 pm
amother [ Violet ] wrote: | The same is true of covid itself. It kills people by age group at rates similar to the natural mortality rates for those age groups. |
This is absolutely not supported by any evidence. Please provide a source.
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amother
Violet
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Fri, Feb 05 2021, 1:40 pm
amother [ OP ] wrote: | As of a few days ago, 23.5 million doses of the covid vaccine were administered in the US.
They have been collecting safety information throughout via the V-safe, VAERS, CISA, and vaccine safety datalink.
As of 12 days ago, 196 in the US people died after getting a vaccine. 129 of those patients were in long term care facilities. This is the same number of deaths that would normally occur in this percentage of the population within this time frame.
Among nursing home residents, those who have been vaccinated have a lower death rate than those who have not been vaccinated.
Among the below-65 age group, 28 people died after being vaccinated. Most of the deaths were heart-related. This is actually a lower rate than the number of sudden cardiac deaths that typically occur in this population. |
Reported deaths now over 501.
Including 11 people under 44, for whom their odds of surviving covid are 99.998%.
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Slateblue
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Fri, Feb 05 2021, 3:33 pm
amother [ Violet ] wrote: | Reported deaths now over 501.
Including 11 people under 44, for whom their odds of surviving covid are 99.998%. |
Do you mind sharing where you got your data?
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Amber
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Fri, Feb 05 2021, 3:41 pm
amother [ Violet ] wrote: | Reported deaths now over 501.
Including 11 people under 44, for whom their odds of surviving covid are 99.998%. |
But how many more people have been vaccinated in those 12 days? Vaccination rates are picking up daily. We still need to look at the overall percentage.
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