why is the frum world afraid of color??

DrMom

Sun, Apr 03 2011, 2:30 am

boymom wrote:

this black business is driving me insane! I LOVE color. I got married just about 5 yrs ago and most of my stuff were colored. ( of course I hardly wear any of it. unfortunately- cuz they still fit b'h). as a kid growing up I dont think I owned any black things. its a very recent thing.

maybe if all imamothers were to make an agreement that we all go out and wear colors it will become new trend. maybe stores should only carry black for big sizes, cuz fat pple do look better in black. but for slim women - only colors. that might do the trick!

and if women are wearing colors then kids will for sure be wearing colors too.....

Why do you go along with a fashion trend you hate? It's not halacha -- it's just a fashion trend.

Buck the system. Be a rebel.

Wear a colorful (not loud) print. Stick a black blazer or cardigan over it if you don't want to stand out too much. Or wear a colorful scarf to give your outfit a punch of color. Or wear candy-apple-red shoes with your black clothes.

Ora, I agree with you: People in most frum communities I know of in EY do not dress like this. Especially little girls.

ysydmom

Sun, Apr 03 2011, 3:36 am

I hardly ever by black at all, I have 2 basic black skirts but everything else is color. My shirts are nice and colorful my kids clothes are colorful. I don't even own basic black shoes!

Black is for a funeral maybe that's why we have a shidduch crisis bec. every girl wears the same black suit! Dress up and have fun with colors!

OldYoung

Sun, Apr 03 2011, 6:00 am

ora_43 wrote:

Why do people say "the frum world" when what they mean is "parts of Brooklyn and New Jersey"?

You are absolutely right. In our mainstream right-wing shul, most of the kids and women wear beautiful, great-quality, non-black Shabbos clothes on a regular basis. And they are not the only kids doing so in our large, oot community! Maybe it has to do with the fact that most of us have to buy clothing from regular department stores which rarely carry all-black outfits? All black on little girls is definitely a "frum" fashion. Most normal stores carry items like this now, which we'd just pair with some simple shells/cardigans

http://www1.bloomingdales.com/.....10135

http://www1.bloomingdales.com/.....10135

http://www1.bloomingdales.com/.....10135

http://www.saksfifthavenue.com.....=2:19

http://www.saksfifthavenue.com.....9=7:7

http://www.saksfifthavenue.com.....=9:10

If you want some color, come move over here. Wink

bubby

Sun, Apr 03 2011, 6:04 am

I made a point of checking out all the girls in Shul yesterday after reading this thread. One girl (about 12-13 & the oldest) was wearing a lovely shade of teal. Everyone else (& they dropped in ages to toddling) was in black, gray or navy...from headbands to tights & shoes.

Teal girl looked like a beautiful kingfisher compared to drab sparrows. I wanted to hug her!

shabbatiscoming

Sun, Apr 03 2011, 7:06 am

sky wrote:

Ruchel wrote:

Except maybe wearing a lot of red or flashy fuchsia or something, I don't see colours being avoided.

in America in NY, NJ area everyone is only wearing black. At weddings, functions, summer, winter, that is it. At speaches its a sea of black with some navy and grey with few other colors.

I'm actually having a contest with my sister to see who can buy the lease black for the summer. So far I haven't bought anything black other then a skirt (instead I got light blue, coral, turquoise, tan, grey, purple, etc). I'm so sick of black.

this is in chassidish, yeshivish, etc. crowds. at my wedding as well as my sister's wedding there was a LOT of colors other than black blue and grey. my mother wore (the same dress to both weddings) soft pink. my sisters wore pink, lilac. my sil wore turquoise (charedi israel) and my mil wore wine red.

I personally dont get the "lets only wear dark colors all of the time" thing. my daughter dresses in lots of color and I hope she always will. we always did.

we are mo so maybe thats why its different, who knows??

theima8

Sun, Apr 03 2011, 7:10 am

Seems like people want to dress little girls like adult women, that's why you see 2-3 year olds wearing black.
I wanted to get some very pretty colorful flowery dresses for my little girls, but my teenage daughter said "Don't get them, nobody wears those today, it looks old fashioned!" LOL

amother

Sun, Apr 03 2011, 9:00 am

OldYoung, those are cute, but pricey! Can anyone offer some more economical ideas?

I just ordered this for all my granddaughters:
Lands End Pink Cardigan Sweatshirt

(anon because in case you know me, you must have heard about my metzia!)

momg12

Sun, Apr 03 2011, 9:22 am

Mama Bear wrote:

NOthing ot do with frum. that's in fashion now.

soooooo untrue fashion now is florals, brights, pastels, stripes and denim. dark colors are classics that goo with everything and never rly go out of fashion (ever here of the classic little black dress). in the very frum world they have bewen wearing just these colors for as long as I remember, a concept which truly confuses me. as for dressing children in these colors, well thats just wrong, I remember once when my now 15 year old was 10, she came home from a friends house crying because some "friends" of hers told her thet her florr length bright dress wasnt tzniut. if you are going to argue bright colors are wrong because they draw attention to bodies, then why kids? they arent developed enough to be looked at in anyway besides "o how cute" plus, if you are the only one wearing darks in a sea of bright then im sorry but you are going to draw attention.

momg12

Sun, Apr 03 2011, 9:28 am

also, I just bought all my girls a bunch of new, cute, dresses. the condition? they had to clean out their closets of everything they no longer wanted/ no longer fit into. I am now stuck with tons of very cute tzniut clothes in amazing condition in sizes womens med and kids med. if you have kids in this size lemme know, im havin no luck on ebay! turns out noone rly wants long skirts and stuff...

Raisin

Sun, Apr 03 2011, 9:49 am

grip wrote:

Why do people buy clothing they don't like? Go buy from a regular store, not a frum one.

have you TRIED buying stuff for an 8-12 year old girl in a regular store recently? Clearly not. Non Jewish fashions are mini skirts and leggings. maybe one or two maxi dresses.

nylon

Sun, Apr 03 2011, 10:19 am

It's really a frum thing. Last year, I had to buy my dd (then 3) a dress for my grandmother's funeral/shiva. Everything in the regular stores were bright colors which did not seem appropriate--lots of pink frilly Easter dresses. The best I could do was white with navy stripes. It was the day before Erev Pesach (funeral the next day) and there was no time for me to drive around half the NY area to shop, and I was afraid to even try the Five Towns that close to a chag when everyone had already done their shopping. This included the high end department stores, where they sell expensive, fancy dresses--I wasn't just looking in Baby Gap. I picked my way through all of Roosevelt Field and wound up in the Huntington Saks.

Sometimes, for winter clothes, you'll see dark colors--green, navy, dark red. My mother (not frum) bought my daughter a beautiful (and pricey) green velvet dress for a wedding when she was 1yo. But never summer. Black gets used sometimes, especially for older girls--but the non-frum stores do things like match black pants with bright pink tops.

As for the styles in non-frum stores, it really depends on many factors beyond the styles being shown. Summer is harder than winter, because of all the sleeveless. Simcha clothes are a story of their own; even non-frum Jews often go to special stores for those.

But those of us who live out of town have to pick through the regular racks 90% of the time.

OldYoung

Sun, Apr 03 2011, 10:59 am

Isramom8 wrote:

The Bloomingdale's dresses: Nice! But not sure if dressy enough for a sibling's wedding. Too expensive for a regular Shabbos dress. I like some of the colors, but somehow my eye gravitates to the black and white, sigh...

Yes, those are certainly not dressy enough for a sibling's wedding! They were just a bunch of cute, non-black dresses that would be totally acceptable for girls to wear on Shabbos/Yom Tov in our shul.

And to the bubby who posted the cardigans, cute! (I probably don't know you; if you bought them for your granddaughters then you're probably old enough to be my mother. Wink

)

Here are some other ideas that I like and are less expensive, for those who asked

http://www.zara.com/webapp/wcs.....DRESS

http://www.zara.com/webapp/wcs.....BBELT

http://www.zara.com/webapp/wcs.....2BBOW

http://www.janieandjack.com/sh.....ted=0

http://www.jcrew.com/girls_cat.....1.jsp

http://www.jcrew.com/girls_cat.....5.jsp

http://www.jcrew.com/girls_cat.....8.jsp

Isramom8

Sun, Apr 03 2011, 11:08 am

The Zara dresses are more what goes here for Shabbos. Although they all look short. We need a mid-calf length or close.
For my dds ages 12 and 9, those styles are too juvenile. They are wearing what people wrote girls wear, not necessarily in black, but gray or purple or navy or cream, and generally more mature styles.