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Motek
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 Fri, Mar 30 2007, 12:29 pm
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People say it - I want to know if there's a source for it.
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chocolate moose
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Fri, Mar 30 2007, 12:35 pm
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lotte
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Fri, Mar 30 2007, 12:37 pm
| Motek wrote: | | People say it - I want to know if there's a source for it. |
I heard it from many tzadikim!
So I am sure its true!
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shalhevet
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Sat, Mar 31 2007, 3:17 pm
I think it says in the gemora that every child is born
וככרו בידו
ie that he brings his own parnossa.
Maybe you could try searching it, b/c I certainly don't have time!!
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TzenaRena
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Sat, Mar 31 2007, 8:50 pm
| Motek wrote: | | People say it - I want to know if there's a source for it. | The Lubavitcher Rebbe said it, in the sichos about Pru urevu. It will have to wait till after Pesach to find the exact quote though.
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greenfire
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Sat, Mar 31 2007, 9:02 pm
Have you not seen it with your own children ... I could tell you stories ...
my first one ... we got a bill for hosp nursery ... I couldn't go back to work and H did not have job yet ... suddenly in comes a tax check in the exact amount that the bill was ...
2nd one - dh got raise just about when he was born...
3rd one - meshane makom ... meshane mazel ... I got pregnant the first time I went to the mikva after moving out-of-town ...
4th one - she is one big brocha ... the kid everyone dreams of having ...
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ny21
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Sat, Mar 31 2007, 9:15 pm
I do not know the source , but every child hashem gives you
is a bracha any mother can tell you that.
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Chani
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Sat, Mar 31 2007, 9:16 pm
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I think it is in a gemara that every child is born with his own loaf of bread...I'll ask my husband if I can remember later, b/c I think he knows.
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Motek
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Sun, Apr 01 2007, 11:36 am
| shalhevet wrote: | I think it says in the gemora that every child is born
וככרו בידו
ie that he brings his own parnossa. |
I know that source. It's in Gemara Nidda 31b. Actually, it's this Gemara that prompts my question!
Why?
Because this Gemara refers to a BOY. Regarding a girl, the same Gemara says she comes with nothing!
What does it mean that a zachar comes with "kikro b'yado" and a nekeiva "ein ima klum - nekeiva nekiya ba'a" -נקבה אין עמה כלום, נקבה נקייה באה?
Maharsha says that whereas a zachar comes with his own mazal, a nekeiva does not have her own mazal ("she comes empty") because her mazal is dependent on the zachar.
Also, what a boy earns is his, what a girl earns belongs to her father or husband.
None of this supports the idea that a baby comes with its bracha.
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chocolate moose
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Thu, Apr 19 2007, 3:51 pm
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so that’s not really it, then. Dh says he’s also never heard of the saying.
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Lechatchila Ariber
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Sun, May 13 2007, 12:09 am
TzenaRenaleh, its quite after Pesach....
nu!
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TzenaRena
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Wed, May 16 2007, 1:52 am
In the sicha of Parshas Noach, Likuttei Sicos vol 25, page 36 2nd par.,1st column.
"Together with each child which is born, a new channel (tzinor) is opened for birchas Hashem, for hashpaah of food and sustenance, (also) for the newborn child, and in a manner of "with His goodness, with chen, chesed and with rachamim", from His full, open holy and expansive hand."
In the footnote *74, the Rebbe brings down RamBam hilchos Ishus ch. 14, halacha 16: even if a person has fulfilled the mitzvah of being fruitful and multiplying, it is still a Rabbinic mitzvah not to abstain from pru urevu as long as he has the ability, since every one who adds a soul in Israel is as though he built an (entire) world.
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TzenaRena
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Wed, May 16 2007, 2:12 am
in footnote 8 on p. 37: family planning is discussed more at length in the following sichos - Shabbos Parshas Naso, alef shelach, Shabbos parshas Shelach, and Shabbos Parshas Korah, Taf Shin Mem. and others.
unfortunately, I don't have the sichos of Taf Shin mem. ( I have all the volumes after that....and many before..) Maybe can find it on www.otzar770.com
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Ruchel
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Wed, May 16 2007, 6:02 pm
Today dh and I went to the frum hairdresser, and when seeing we had a baby, the guys started talking of that 
They told me there is a bracha for first born girls... trying to remember it...
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TzenaRena
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Wed, May 16 2007, 7:22 pm
"Bas techila siman yafah l'bonim"?
I have a bas techila BH, and it's true! 
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Lechatchila Ariber
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Wed, May 16 2007, 7:26 pm
TR the walking sefer  ...thanks
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TzenaRena
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Wed, May 16 2007, 7:53 pm
Hisvaaduyos 5743 sicha of 25 iyar to nshei Ubnos Chabad page 1481
Hisvaaduyos 5743 sicha of Shabbos Vayikra page 1163
Hisvaaduyos 5742 sicha of Chof Menachem Av page 2047
interesting point brought out in the last one:
Two can lift disproportionately more than the sum total of each one separately. (like when the meraglim carried the gigantic fruits, see Rashi) When each child is born, it is together with the parents drawing down more parnassa than the two separately, child and parent could, and in fact more than double than the two separately both could.
My search on otzar770.com brought up 79 results! that's not counting the sichos of taf shin mem, or mem alef which they haven't yet programmmed into the website.
Last edited by TzenaRena on Thu, May 17 2007, 1:38 pm; edited 1 time in total
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chocolate moose
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Wed, May 16 2007, 9:48 pm
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so - is it only LUb kids tht bring their own bracha?
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