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SixOfWands
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 Wed, Mar 07 2018, 1:56 pm
| marina wrote: | | Doesn't really answer the question. Why else would halacha have an issue with one but not the other? |
Why are my gay friends the only ones who get to dance with their significant others at weddings with mechitzas?
Answer == they probably never thought of it.
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simba
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Wed, Mar 07 2018, 2:14 pm
| marina wrote: | | Doesn't really answer the question. Why else would halacha have an issue with one but not the other? |
I am not following your logic.
Do you mean that gay zex must be ok if because male to male hugging is ok? We know that the Torah clearly forbids gay Zex.
Or are you questioning the Rambam for his statement on sibling hugging but not same zex hugging?
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imasoftov
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Wed, Mar 07 2018, 2:18 pm
| enneamom wrote: | | Why don't you go ask the Rambam? |
I so hope you are not a teacher.
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Yael
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Wed, Mar 07 2018, 2:55 pm
please refrain from discussing same gender hugging and go back to the original topic which is brothers and sisters hugging.
Thank you
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simba
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Wed, Mar 07 2018, 3:10 pm
| imasoftov wrote: | | I so hope you are not a teacher. |
I so hope she doesn't have to defend the Rambam.
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amother
Red
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Wed, Mar 07 2018, 3:25 pm
We are Yeshivish though I came from a more modern family. I first heard about this in seminary when a girl said when her brothers came back from EY it was so hard that she couldn't hug them.
I didn't take this on and continued to hug my brother but my sister stopped. Over time I realized that while DH didn't say I couldn't, it was not considered appropriate in our understanding of the Rambam/Shulchan Oruch.
However, my married DD's do give their brothers haircuts if necessary (e.g. wife doesn't know how or isn't able to and he needs one badly!) but I would assume they don't do this for nephews over 9.
But brother and sister are allowed to touch in a casual way (not affectionately) e.g. need to pass each other in a narrow space etc they won't be careful not to touch as you would with brother in law etc.
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simba
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Wed, Mar 07 2018, 3:57 pm
| moonstone wrote: | | Well, that's your opinion. Many would disagree. |
It is not really about an opinion. If one really cared they would call their rabbi and ask.
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MyKidsRQte
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Wed, Mar 07 2018, 7:28 pm
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I do not hug my brothers at all. I hug my father when ever I see him, whether in private or public
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octopus
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Wed, Mar 07 2018, 7:38 pm
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I hug and kiss my father not in public but would never hug my brothers or kiss.
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amother
Oak
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Wed, Mar 07 2018, 9:06 pm
Can someone explain the married/unmarried thing?
(I have always hugged brothers, before and after marriage)
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simba
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Wed, Mar 07 2018, 9:28 pm
| amother wrote: | Can someone explain the married/unmarried thing?
(I have always hugged brothers, before and after marriage) |
You are correct. The discussion should be about adult siblings. Over bar/bas mitzvah..
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amother
Sienna
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Wed, Mar 07 2018, 9:34 pm
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As there is no concept of yichud between brothers and sisters, I wonder why hugging would be not ok.
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tichellady
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Wed, Mar 07 2018, 9:37 pm
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To answer the question, I think it’s fine and I don’t know anyone who doesn’t. If you want to hold by the rambam on this, then do that, but that doesn’t make it mainstream
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amother
Lavender
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Wed, Mar 07 2018, 9:51 pm
| tichellady wrote: | | To answer the question, I think it’s fine and I don’t know anyone who doesn’t. If you want to hold by the rambam on this, then do that, but that doesn’t make it mainstream |
It seems that different circles hold differently regarding this, which is fine.
Just pointing out though that the Rambam isn't a 'daas yochid' on this. The shulchan aruch, igros moshe, mishna berurah (think it is mentioned there as well) are pretty mainstream halachic authorities.
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amother
Bisque
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Wed, Mar 07 2018, 9:57 pm
(As there is no concept of yichud between brothers and sisters, I wonder why hugging would be not ok)
FYI a brother and sister are not allowed to live in one house permanently. It would also be considered yichud.
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amother
Pearl
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Wed, Mar 07 2018, 10:24 pm
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I do not hug or kiss my brothers
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Coffee Addict
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Wed, Mar 07 2018, 10:32 pm
| MyKidsRQte wrote: | | I do not hug my brothers at all. I hug my father when ever I see him, whether in private or public |
Same here! My father hugs and kisses me whenever. Brothers not.
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amother
Tangerine
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Thu, Mar 08 2018, 12:19 am
We dont hug or kiss.
but we would hold hands to dance together if we're doing it with kids - like chanukah parties, purim, birthday party...
My father kissed me up until and including my wedding day. After that, it sort of was unspoken that there's a different man now to give me that 
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Zeleze
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Thu, Mar 08 2018, 4:40 am
What about shaking hands at a Simcha lets say, or a Mazel Tov ?
Are siblings alowed that, ot the Kitzer SO means shaking hands too?
Never knew this Halacha and will to some homework
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