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amother




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Post  Sun, Jan 06 2019, 9:20 am
About 6 months ago I started keto.
In the beginning I was not as strict as I am now. It’s a learning curve.
The first month I lost 18lbs.
Since then, almost 5 months, I’ve lost 4 lbs.
The first month I lost 2 dress sizes.
But since then I’ve stalled
I’m feeling really good, full of energy,etc.
I also do intermittent fasting.
I guess I’ve plateued.
I need to lose another 40lbs to get to the top limit of a normal BMI.

Please only answer if you are on keto.
Don’t want to hear how unhealthy it is for me.
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Mint Chocolate




 
 
 


Post  Sun, Jan 06 2019, 9:23 am
I hear you. I lost some weight in the beginning too. But I was close to “my range”. Now 6 months is I’m staying put. I believe I need to cut more fat out. I eat pretty clean so it’s hard to get stricter. Check your fat levels. Maybe you can cut a bit out without feeling it. Less cheese. Less oil. Goood luck!
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marina




 
 
 


Post  Sun, Jan 06 2019, 9:41 am
move your IF to evenings.
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amother




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Post  Sun, Jan 06 2019, 9:52 am
marina wrote:
move your IF to evenings.


Please explain
Do you mean not eat so late.
My eating window is from 11- 7.
I eat 2 meals
I’ve been trying to close the window further, but I’m not successful yet.

Are you successful at keto
How much weight did you lose

I’m not quitting since I feel great and my lab work if fantastic. Plus I’ve kept the weight off eating great food
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marina




 
 
 


Post  Sun, Jan 06 2019, 9:59 am
yes successful at keto
move your window up and skip dinner not breakfast
you can also try limiting dairy and nuts
Also try the pee sticks to see if you’re in ketosis

what do you eat generally in a day?
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amother




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Post  Sun, Jan 06 2019, 10:24 am
marina wrote:
yes successful at keto
move your window up and skip dinner not breakfast
you can also try limiting dairy and nuts
Also try the pee sticks to see if you’re in ketosis

what do you eat generally in a day?


Typically.

Coffee with 2 TBSP Butter

1st meal
Coffee with 1/3 cup almond milk
2 oz cheese
1 avocado
Small Israeli or green salad with 1 Tbsp olive oil


2nd meal
4 oz chicken, meat or fish
Largish Salad with 3T olive oil
Broccoli or cauliflower, or spinach, sometimes string beans but not often

Sometimes I’ll gave a handful of pecans

I should add bone broth, but don’t know when.

Please share what you ate when you were in Weightloss mode.
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marina




 
 
 


Post  Sun, Jan 06 2019, 11:19 am
that menu doesn’t look too bad, but try moving up dinner earlier. I typically ate coffee and dairy for breakfast with a larger lunch and snack for dinner with coffee or tea but your mileage may vary
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marina




 
 
 


Post  Sun, Jan 06 2019, 11:24 am
also use the ketone sticks to make sure you are in ketosis
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amother




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Post  Sun, Jan 06 2019, 11:30 am
marina wrote:
also use the ketone sticks to make sure you are in ketosis

I use a blood meter cause after a while the sticks were not turning purple for me
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marina




 
 
 


Post  Sun, Jan 06 2019, 11:38 am
what range are you in on the blood monitor?
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amother




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Post  Sun, Jan 06 2019, 12:49 pm
marina wrote:
that menu doesn’t look too bad, but try moving up dinner earlier. I typically ate coffee and dairy for breakfast with a larger lunch and snack for dinner with coffee or tea but your mileage may vary


Ok let me get this straight
Bigger 1st meal, small 2nd meal- more like a snack

Did you count macros?
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amother




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Post  Sun, Jan 06 2019, 12:50 pm
marina wrote:
what range are you in on the blood monitor?

Usually 1-1.5 but this morning 3
But I didn’t eat since 1 pm the day before.!
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dankbar




 
 
 


Post  Sun, Jan 06 2019, 7:32 pm
Andrea Levy is the expert
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marina




 
 
 


Post  Mon, Jan 07 2019, 2:12 am
amother wrote:
Usually 1-1.5 but this morning 3
But I didn’t eat since 1 pm the day before.!


1-1.5 is lowish. I would keep trying for 2-3 at the very least
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amother




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Post  Mon, Jan 07 2019, 2:48 pm
marina wrote:
1-1.5 is lowish. I would keep trying for 2-3 at the very least


How do I get it to 3
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marina




 
 
 


Post  Mon, Jan 07 2019, 3:33 pm
eat more good fats and less proteins. You will also be full faster.
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amother




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Post  Mon, Jan 07 2019, 6:59 pm
marina wrote:
eat more good fats and less proteins. You will also be full faster.


But then I’ll go over my macros
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amother




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Post  Tue, Jan 08 2019, 9:17 am
BUMP
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andrea levy




 
 
 


Post  Tue, Jan 08 2019, 11:41 am
dankbar wrote:
Andrea Levy is the expert

aww. Marina did it first!

Ok so basically I’ve been ruminating about this over the last while. Here’s what I think, personally, for me. I’m not a nutrition specialist nor do I play one on TV.

I think that what we are experiencing in many cases is a result of the success of the way of eating. All the non scale victories are amazing, as well as the scale victories, because before, we had none of those if we could not stay in a plan!

I started at 315 and rapidly lost 50 pounds. Then, more slowly, I lost another 30-35. I’ve been plateaued for about 9 months, basically maintaining my loss.

Now, don’t get me wrong. I’m still 100 pounds or even a bit more, overweight. But, I FEEL great mentally, physically and in just about every way you can think of. I don’t cheat, ever. My food is all pretty much unprocessed by others. My carb level is almost carnivore.

So, why am I plateaued? I’ve done a lot of research. I don’t check my ketones because I can TELL when my ketosis is stronger/weaker etc. If you’re low carb enough, sometimes ketones don’t even register on sticks because you’re using them. I get a taste in my mouth. I assume even when I don’t have the taste I am in ketosis. Because I eat low carb enough to maintain it, always.

I think that calories do matter. I think that the macro makeup of those calories is the difference between my raging disordered eating for 44.5 years and the peace I experience now. When I eat very low carb (never even mind the rest of the macros) I feel good, I am healthy and I am in control, especially chemically. For all those years, I had to fight my hormones that were raging because of my consumption of even the most innocuous carbs. Yes, apples and bananas and potatoes and squash are all treated the same by my body. I wasn’t lacking willpower, I literally could not help myself.

So, ketosis is that magic bullet for me that allows me to learn how to eat in an ordered way. In my whole previous life, I could not tell if I was satisfied. I could be stuffed to the gills and wanting more. Ketosis allows me to relax a little and learn about what those feelings feel like. It’s quite a trip. And there’s time, because I intend to do this forever.

I do a lot of intermittent fasting and am not particularly dogmatic about it. I pretty much eat when hungry and not when not. Some days that’s 16/8 and some days that’s 20/4. Occasionally, like Shabbat it’s 12/12 or 14/10

But back to calories. So now, we’ve established that my calories are based on low carbs, moderate protein and high fat. Still, I am not losing weight. I eat as cleanly as possible yet nothing seems to want to budge off of me. I do have menopause going on, and I know that’s working against me too. But still, I persist. So what else?

Calories. I believe that if I restricted my calories, I’d lose further weight. I’ve been reticent about doing so because when I started this journey, I literally had two goals. 1) to stay on plan, stabilize my blood sugar and not go blind and 2) not to regain any weight I lost.

I’ve never changed those goals. I’m not dying to lose more weight. My body and head are healthy. I’m happier than I’ve been in my whole life since my body doesn’t hurt and the sh***y committee in my head went silent. I still have reservations about doing anything that might bring back my disordered eating patterns. So how much do I actually want to lose the extra weight?

Enough to go to places behaviourally where I feel like I might be in danger?

Are these places still dangerous? I don’t know. And that sort of scares me. Empirically, I think I might be able to do it. ‘Muscle’ memory is long.

In the past, prior to low carb, as soon as I started restricting, it would trigger me to binge. That doesn’t happen anymore. I haven’t eaten significant amounts of carb in twenty months. I’ve fasted and eaten on a plan. There have, admittedly been some times where I overate, not intentionally- but it’s been at least 8 months since that happened last and because I didn’t like how it felt, AND could control it, I haven’t done it again, since.

What I haven’t done much of is conscious calorie restriction. Logically, I know that I should be able to handle it because of the benefits of ketosis, but my disordered eating is not limited to what I eat. I also have behaviours that are strongly entrenched, and undereating was a massive trigger for me. This goes beyond eating to satiety. I know I won’t be hungry because ketosis/fasting but I’m not sure how my MIND will handle the restriction.

Anyways, I’m five two. On the advice of my keto friendly dietician, I am recording and keeping to under 1500 calories a day. I’m being very careful to modify my protein intake and up my fat intake because I want excellent blood sugars. Yesterday, I was fine at 1200 calories. Because even without trying, I suspect that sometimes I overeat beyond satiety when I am not recording. 1200 is where I’d need to be to maintain a 140 lb body. I could get my extra skin removed my breasts reduced,and stop having jock itch issues. There would be advantages to getting to a lower, maintainable weight. I see that.

I am the right path here. It’s staying ON THE PATH that will get me where I am going. If this is a way of eating, not a diet, then eventually I can work it out - what I need to do to lose all the weight. Acting impetuously or rashly can only result in bad things for me. Guaranteed, if I let things slide or stop being extremely careful, I will end up where I started or worse.

This whole thing is such a miracle in my life. I never dreamed that I’d be a ‘go to’ person about anything related to diet. I remind myself regularly that I don’t know everything and that research and knowledge are incredibly important.

I will add that I believe strongly in the following: eating real food, not chemicals, no grain/starch/sweetener of any description, (caloric or not) and no cheating, because it’s easier for me to stay on my path then get back on. Everyone has to decide what works for themselves, but BE HONEST with yourself, because YOU are the only one suffering if you aren’t.


Last edited by andrea levy on Tue, Jan 08 2019, 11:54 am; edited 2 times in total
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marina




 
 
 


Post  Tue, Jan 08 2019, 11:46 am
great post Andrea!
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