S/O Vitamin K Black Box

southernbubby

Wed, Nov 06 2019, 12:31 pm

amother [ Indigo ] wrote:

When I said choice, I didn't even mean choice to refuse the k shot or not. I meant that the information regarding the lifestyle choices that can potentially prevent the need for a vit k shot should be as equally available, prominent and accepted as information regarding vkdb is. My theory regarding gut microbiome and vit k is just a hypothesis, I haven't looked into it and have no idea if it was ever researched, (I do know that adults with gut disorders are known to be deficient in vitamin k) but even if it really was a thing, this would not be well known information. Just like the dept of health didn't say boo about vit a during the measles outbreak, nobody is paying for ads during the super bowl announcing that eliminating sugar can cut your risk of cancer in half, and most people don't know that magnesium deficiency alone can cause ocd, high blood pressure and arrhythmias.

So who said that a naturopath can't advertise?

#BestBubby

Wed, Nov 06 2019, 12:34 pm

southernbubby wrote:

It doesn't but a child who has a brain hemorrhage may need a lifetime of care.

Oh, so now we have gone to forcing risky Medical Procedures/Vaccines because
of risk to public to forcing risky Medical Procedures to prevent permanent injury?

Southern Bubby, should the government FORCE us what to eat and what we cannot eat, what time we go to sleep and what time we wake up, force us to exercize?

#BestBubby

Wed, Nov 06 2019, 12:43 pm

southernbubby wrote:

It doesn't but a child who has a brain hemorrhage may need a lifetime of care.

southernbubby

Wed, Nov 06 2019, 12:47 pm

#BestBubby wrote:

There is, at present, no proof of a connection between vaccines and these disabilities so making such a claim gets us nowhere.

#BestBubby

Wed, Nov 06 2019, 1:13 pm

southernbubby wrote:

There is, at present, no proof of a connection between vaccines and these disabilities so making such a claim gets us nowhere.

Well it is acknowledged that vaccines can cause injuries. If there is risk there cannot be coercion.

And government refuses to do a vax vs unvax study. Obviously government knows such a study would prove that vax does cause autism and many other illnesses.

southernbubby

Wed, Nov 06 2019, 2:28 pm

#BestBubby wrote:

And if the government studied it and didn't come up with an answer that was acceptable to anti-vaxers and conspiracy theorists, how would that change anything?

southernbubby

Wed, Nov 06 2019, 2:35 pm

amother [ Indigo ] wrote:

I get the feeling you're being intentionally obtuse.

No but you expect the government or the pharmaceutical companies to inform the public of risks, hazards and alternatives. Are homeopathic practioners expected to do that? I wonder how many babies are actually harmed by the vitamin K injection. Are you going to trot out best bubby's statistics also and say that link exists somewhere?
Maybe airlines should be obligated to inform the public of the statistical odds of being in an airline crash and dying. This should be stated by the flight attendant to each passenger prior to boarding.

#BestBubby

Wed, Nov 06 2019, 2:38 pm

southernbubby wrote:

Nobody FORCES anyone to do homeopathy or to fly on a plane!

southernbubby

Wed, Nov 06 2019, 2:41 pm

#BestBubby wrote:

And as far as coercion goes, I know that anti-vaxers will never acknowledge it, but most of us believe that it is because of vaccines that we don't have dangerous epidemics such as what existed for our parents and grandparents so we believe that anti-vaxers are protected by the fact that most people vaccinate. You benefit from our choices and risks but we sure don't benefit from yours!

southernbubby

Wed, Nov 06 2019, 2:59 pm

#BestBubby wrote:

The government pays for many unhealthy choices such as SNAP for soda pop so I doubt that they are forcing healthy food any time soon.
Again, if you don't want routine neonatal care, stay home. The government doesn't outlaw home birth.
Why should you expect to dictate your ideology to the hospital staff? Just don't go!

amother

Jade

Wed, Nov 06 2019, 3:05 pm

[quote="#BestBubby"]Vaccines injuries cause lifetime of care - and Billions for Pharmaceutical Industry:

Today's Children:

1:6 Learning Disabled
1:10 ADHD
1:10 Allergies
1:50 Autism, 1:150 NON VERBAL Autism
1:90 Epilepsy
1:400 DIabetes
1:5,000 Cancer[/quote

As far as ld, asd, adhd: many of us “yesterdays children” were just that, though never diagnosed because there was little awareness

southernbubby

Wed, Nov 06 2019, 3:10 pm

[quote="amother [ Jade ]"]

#BestBubby wrote:

Vaccines injuries cause lifetime of care - and Billions for Pharmaceutical Industry:

Today's Children:

1:6 Learning Disabled
1:10 ADHD
1:10 Allergies
1:50 Autism, 1:150 NON VERBAL Autism
1:90 Epilepsy
1:400 DIabetes
1:5,000 Cancer[/quote

As far as ld, asd, adhd: many of us “yesterdays children” were just that, though never diagnosed because there was little awareness

I had such shpilkes as a kid; probably from the smallpox vaccine Very Happy

ahfc

Wed, Nov 06 2019, 3:24 pm

#BestBubby wrote:

Global Vaccine Market Revenue to Reach $59.2 Billion by 2020 https://www.pharmaceuticalproc.....2020/

If Vaccines cause LOSSES for Pharmaceutical Industry, Why does Pharmaceutical Industry pays millions in bribes to lobby for MANDATORY Vaccines?

Not only does Pharmaceutical make Billions on Vaccines - they make even more on vaccine injuries: Ritalin for ADHD, Insulin for Diabetes, Meds for Epilepsy, Epi-pens and anti-histamines for allergy, Chemotherapy, etc.

Since the CDC quadrupled the vaccine schedule in 1990, the number of children with chronic illnesses have skyrocketed! And Pharmaceutical industry is raking it in! KATCHING!

.

Wow, so much misinformation in here it is astounding. Even with extensive studies having been done, there has been no proven correlation between DM, epilepsy, ADHD, and cancer. In fact type one onset of DM often occurs after a virus such as rotavirus which is vaccine preventable. Same with cancer risk, some vaccines lower rates of certain cancers, but none increase the risk.

Vaccines make up less than 10% of revenue for drug companies. Have you ever looked up how many billions of dollars are made by the completely unregulated vitamin industry? Oh, but that’s right the $100 (or more) measles prevention vitamins sold by antivax doctor are not for profit, they are completely l’Shem
Shamayim.

southernbubby

Wed, Nov 06 2019, 3:32 pm

ahfc wrote:

Facebook is full of alternative medicine practioners who pedal their dangerous fantasies and laugh all the way to the bank. As soon as Facebook shuts them down, they open another account.

amother

Babyblue

Wed, Nov 06 2019, 4:11 pm

ahfc wrote:

Do you have statistics on DM or auto immune diseases in general in the American unvax population? Why can't someone just prove it's not true, if indeed it isnt true?

southernbubby

Wed, Nov 06 2019, 4:29 pm

amother [ Babyblue ] wrote:

Do you have statistics on DM or auto immune diseases in general in the American unvax population? Why can't someone just prove it's not true, if indeed it isnt true?

Who is motivated to study the non-vaccinated population? The average American gives very little thought to them. He gets his shots and moves on with life.
For that matter, how many candidates make vaccines part of their platform? I honestly don't know the answer to that but maybe some of the anti-vaxers are supporting candidates for public office that promise to reinstate and protect religious exemptions.