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Ora in town




 
 
 
 

Post  Fri, May 22 2020, 10:06 am
New York state has 1485 Covid19-deahts per 1 million inhabitants (per 21.5.2020)
That means: over 0.1% of total population died just because of Covid 19
Then comes new Jersey with 1222
Then Connecticut with 1005...
In Europe, there are many countries of comparable population, yet none comes even near 0,1% Covid-death rate in the overall population....

How come that New York and New jersey were affected so badly?


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amother




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Post  Fri, May 22 2020, 10:11 am
Tell us.
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amother




Plum
 

Post  Fri, May 22 2020, 10:13 am
A bunch of reasons including....


1. Their were more flights arriving in NY in January that originated from China than anywhere else in the country. So the Chinese were literally bringing the virus to JFK, Laguardia, and Newark airports.

2. New York has one of the densest populations in the world.

3. The culture in NY is such that people are together. Bars, clubs, restaurants, and times square.

4. The shutdown orders came later than elsewhere.
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Squishy




 
 
 
 

Post  Fri, May 22 2020, 10:15 am
Democrat run the governments contributed to the problem. Cuomo's decision to seed nursing homes with covid patients to bring up the death rate to make Trump look bad is a major cause of the death rate. The media has blood on its hands for being complicit in the murder of our elders. And there is the density of the population.
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thunderstorm




 
 
 
 

Post  Fri, May 22 2020, 10:16 am
Squishy wrote:
Democrat run the governments contributed to the problem. Cuomo's decision to seed nursing homes with covid patients to bring up the death rate to make Trump look bad is a major cause of the death rate. The media has blood on its hands for being complicit in the murder of our elders. And there is the density of the population.

This. The nursing home issue was a big percentage of the deaths.
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amother




Brunette
 

Post  Fri, May 22 2020, 10:18 am
Lots of neglect in the hospitals. And failure to put orders in place to protect the patients.

Nursing homes contributes to much of the problem.
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amother




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Post  Fri, May 22 2020, 10:25 am
I don't understand what Cuomo's nursing home order has to do with Trump.
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genius




 
 
 
 

Post  Fri, May 22 2020, 10:27 am
amother [ Lavender ] wrote:
I don't understand what Cuomo's nursing home order has to do with Trump.

It has nothing to do with Trump. For some reason the media tries convincing everyone that he is responsible for N.Y. numbers. What do we, idiots, understand about cause and effect?
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amother




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Post  Fri, May 22 2020, 10:29 am
genius wrote:
It has nothing to do with Trump. For some reason the media tries convincing everyone that he is responsible for N.Y. numbers. What do we, idiots, understand about cause and effect?


What is the media saying about Trump and the NY nursing home order?
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amother




Forestgreen
 

Post  Fri, May 22 2020, 10:35 am
Inflation of the numbers led to more federal funding, so there was motivation... (Whether neglecting patients or labelling all deaths as covid deaths...)
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pause




 
 
 
 

Post  Fri, May 22 2020, 10:37 am
I already asked this question. All the bunch of reason stated in amother plum's post don't account for a per capita death of approximately 10 times the amount of the deadliest countries.
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Ora in town




 
 
 
 

Post  Fri, May 22 2020, 10:40 am
pause wrote:
I already asked this question. All the bunch of reason stated in amother plum's post don't account for a per capita death of approximately 10 times the amount of the deadliest countries.

It's not 10 times, only 2-4 times...
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Ora in town




 
 
 
 

Post  Fri, May 22 2020, 10:41 am
thunderstorm wrote:
This. The nursing home issue was a big percentage of the deaths.


Nursing homes account for about 50% of deaths in most countries.
How was the rate in New York?
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fleetwood




 
 
 
 

Post  Fri, May 22 2020, 10:41 am
amother [ Lavender ] wrote:
I don't understand what Cuomo's nursing home order has to do with Trump.

It's simple. He wanted people to die so it looks bad for Trump. Or, the seniors mostly vote Republican so he had them murdered. These are just two of the theories going around.
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leah233




 
 
 
 

Post  Fri, May 22 2020, 10:42 am
Squishy wrote:
Democrat run the governments contributed to the problem. Cuomo's decision to seed nursing homes with covid patients to bring up the death rate to make Trump look bad is a major cause of the death rate. The media has blood on its hands for being complicit in the murder of our elders. And there is the density of the population.


If this was the only reason then why does New Jersey have such a high per capita death rate?
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fleetwood




 
 
 
 

Post  Fri, May 22 2020, 10:42 am
amother [ Lavender ] wrote:
What is the media saying about Trump and the NY nursing home order?


Nothing
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Ora in town




 
 
 
 

Post  Fri, May 22 2020, 10:43 am
amother [ Lavender ] wrote:
Tell us.

Is it because of late intervention?
Ignoring the disease while it was spreading quietly during 1-2 month?

Or is the subway system to blame?
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fleetwood




 
 
 
 

Post  Fri, May 22 2020, 10:43 am
In certain low income areas,namely the Bronx, people are packed Into tiny apartments. These same people took the subway and went to low paying jobs.
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genius




 
 
 
 

Post  Fri, May 22 2020, 10:48 am
amother [ Lavender ] wrote:
What is the media saying about Trump and the NY nursing home order?

Nothing. The general feeling I get when I scroll through the news is that Trump did everything wrong and Cuomo does everything right. No matter the story everything is written to convince you of the above.
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amother




Lavender
 

Post  Fri, May 22 2020, 10:49 am
The death per number infected is lower in New York than in the heavily effected European countries.

So another way to answer your question is - the virus spread more in NY and NJ than elsewhere.
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