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amother
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 Sun, Feb 21 2021, 6:02 pm
Hi, we have a family situation where we'll be stuck staying with my non-frum parents over Pesach (we have an infant, trying to get help, looking for housing in new city). I'm very nervous about how we're going to deal with the Pesach kashrut.
Currently, we have a workable kosher setup in my mom's kitchen. We have our own pots and pans and silverware. We have a dedicated kitchen countertop that we kashered that my parents know not to use. And we have an oven that we kashered (my mom only uses her toaster oven). And we make sure to airwash stuff so it doesn't touch the sink hot. They know not to mess with our stuff, etc.
This setup seems totally unworkable for Pesach, though. We'll have to put pesachdik stuff in their fridge; no point in cleaning the entire fridge because they'll just put chametz back in the fridge and there's no way ensure that out stuff is totally free from chametz. We can re-kasher our countertop and oven, but the entire kitchen won't be cleaned for pesach (and even if it is, they'll just chametz it up). There's just the possibility of chametz everywhere and anywhere, and there's no way to ensure chametz doesn't come into contact with out stuff.
Any ideas on how to handle? College kids who keep strict Pesach must have had non-Jewish / non-observant roommates. We can't be the first to ever deal with this.
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imasinger
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Sun, Feb 21 2021, 6:17 pm
Definitely talk tomorrow your rav.
If your parents will lend you a room to be your "pesach kitchen", where you can clean and cover, set up a mini fridge, folding table as a counter, and microwave, toaster oven, and burners, that will help. Some of these things can be rented. You'll need a minimum of cookware, and can use paper/plastic. Ask about using a bathroom sink for water and washing.
Will you be in an area where you can get klp prepared food?
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tichellady
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Sun, Feb 21 2021, 6:30 pm
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This is a question for a rabbi. I’m sure there are leniencies to be relied on in your situation.
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Rubber Ducky
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Sun, Feb 21 2021, 6:40 pm
| amother [ Copper ] wrote: | | You are not supposed to even see chametz on pesach... |
I think that's a chumra.
As others have suggested, a mini-fridge, folding table, hot plate, plata, and toaster oven sound like the best choice. And speak with a Rav who has experience with BT shailos like yours.
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chestnut
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Sun, Feb 21 2021, 6:50 pm
| amother [ Copper ] wrote: | | You are not supposed to even see chametz on pesach. |
Huh? So frum people who go on chol hamoed trips don't see non Jews eating pizza or food booths? Those who go to regular supermarkets put blindfolds when walking inside and might see boxes of pasta or bread? Or those of us working on chol hamoed and talking to a non Jewish coworker during lunch should promptly turn our back on them once they take out their sandwich?
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amother
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Sun, Feb 21 2021, 7:22 pm
| amother [ Mint ] wrote: | seven days you shall eat unleavened cakes, and on the seventh day, there is a festival for the Lord. ושִׁבְעַ֥ת יָמִ֖ים תֹּאכַ֣ל מַצֹּ֑ת וּבַיּוֹם֙ הַשְּׁבִיעִ֔י חַ֖ג לַיהֹוָֽה:
7Unleavened cakes shall be eaten during the seven days, and no leaven shall be seen of yours [in your possession], and no leavening shall be seen of yours throughout all of your borders.
זמַצּוֹת֙ יֵֽאָכֵ֔ל אֵ֖ת שִׁבְעַ֣ת הַיָּמִ֑ים וְלֹא־יֵֽרָאֶ֨ה לְךָ֜ חָמֵ֗ץ וְלֹא־
From the torah. Not a chumra |
Obviously I'm not an expert, but do you have an authoritative source that this means you can't see chametz at the supermarket -- not that shouldn't see/own chametz in your home, your car, your purse, etc.?
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tichellady
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Sun, Feb 21 2021, 7:40 pm
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You can’t see chometz that you own but I think if you don’t own it, it’s a different story.
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egam
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Sun, Feb 21 2021, 7:51 pm
| amother [ Mint ] wrote: | seven days you shall eat unleavened cakes, and on the seventh day, there is a festival for the Lord. ושִׁבְעַ֥ת יָמִ֖ים תֹּאכַ֣ל מַצֹּ֑ת וּבַיּוֹם֙ הַשְּׁבִיעִ֔י חַ֖ג לַיהֹוָֽה:
7Unleavened cakes shall be eaten during the seven days, and no leaven shall be seen of yours [in your possession], and no leavening shall be seen of yours throughout all of your borders.
זמַצּוֹת֙ יֵֽאָכֵ֔ל אֵ֖ת שִׁבְעַ֣ת הַיָּמִ֑ים וְלֹא־יֵֽרָאֶ֨ה לְךָ֜ חָמֵ֗ץ וְלֹא־
From the torah. Not a chumra |
Bolded are the key words. The hometz the OP might see does not belong to her. It’s not in her possession.
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amother
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Sun, Feb 21 2021, 7:59 pm
It's also an issue to use any of their chametz products that they don't sell over pesach after pesach (e.g. a box of pasta).
Currently in similar situation to you. Looking into renting a hotel w/ kitchenette or a 2 bedroom villa for pesach. In total it'd probably be around 1-1.5k for the rental plus $500-1k for very basic supplies. Burner, pan, toaster oven, containers, grape juice (maybe a bottle or two of wine but otherwise the 2pk of extra large grape juice bottles from Costco), knives, peelers, paper and plastic ware, bedikas chametz kit, a bunch of basic food, and a premade seder plate from a Chabad house.
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andrea levy
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Sun, Feb 21 2021, 7:59 pm
| amother [ Mint ] wrote: | seven days you shall eat unleavened cakes, and on the seventh day, there is a festival for the Lord. ושִׁבְעַ֥ת יָמִ֖ים תֹּאכַ֣ל מַצֹּ֑ת וּבַיּוֹם֙ הַשְּׁבִיעִ֔י חַ֖ג לַיהֹוָֽה:
7Unleavened cakes shall be eaten during the seven days, and no leaven shall be seen of yours [in your possession], and no leavening shall be seen of yours throughout all of your borders.
זמַצּוֹת֙ יֵֽאָכֵ֔ל אֵ֖ת שִׁבְעַ֣ת הַיָּמִ֑ים וְלֹא־יֵֽרָאֶ֨ה לְךָ֜ חָמֵ֗ץ וְלֹא־
From the torah. Not a chumra |
You sell your own chametz. Her parents chametz is not hers. Chimera not Torah.
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