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amother
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Sun, Oct 17 2021, 10:45 pm
amother [ Maple ] wrote: | Ok here's my pet peeve. Bas Tzion is from tanach. Bentzion is a boys version with no tanach source.
Anyone who knows me and reads this will know who I am from this post lol |
Lol interesting! Benai tzion is in tanach too ... So maybe it derives from there?
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amother
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Sun, Oct 17 2021, 10:46 pm
What about Rochel / Rachel?
(Do you know the story of Yirmiyahu during the churban, when all the Avos, Moshe Rabbeinu, then Rachel pleaded for the redemption of B'nai Yisrael?)
In her z'chus we will return to Yerushalayim.
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amother
Midnight
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Sun, Oct 17 2021, 10:48 pm
amother [ Midnight ] wrote: | What about Rochel / Rachel?
(Do you know the story of Yirmiyahu during the churban, when all the Avos, Moshe Rabbeinu, then Rachel pleaded for the redemption of B'nai Yisrael?)
In her z'chus we will return to Yerushalayim. |
So funny, I just saw another post a few below, with this story. If you are due soon it would also be good timing around her yahrzeit...
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amother
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Sun, Oct 17 2021, 10:57 pm
amother [ Maple ] wrote: | Ok here's my pet peeve. Bas Tzion is from tanach. Bentzion is a boys version with no tanach source.
Anyone who knows me and reads this will know who I am from this post lol |
Don't have a source in Tenach but the Steipler gave my brother his name -Benzion.
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amother
Maple
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Sun, Oct 17 2021, 11:04 pm
amother [ Midnight ] wrote: | How do you know that he said that?
Any other names that you know have specific segulos attached to them?
Asking seriously |
I know from ppl who named their daughter that lol
Can be Bentzion is from benei tzion
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amother
Aconite
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Sun, Oct 17 2021, 11:06 pm
Isn't one of the mir , rebbetzins batzion?
Maybe rebbetzin carlebach or glustein? (Rav Nosson Tzvi's sisters in law)
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amother
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Sun, Oct 17 2021, 11:07 pm
amother [ OP ] wrote: | Hmmm...it would have to be bat-tzion because dh is into dikduk and havarah...but I've never heard either one tbh...maybe... |
I've met a Batzion.
Also, Shlomtzion can be shortened to Shlomtzi.
Then there is Tsivya or Tsviya - a nod to "Eretz Tzvi"
Noah is a beautiful name of one of the five daughters of Tzelafchad, who made a special request to be given a portion of E"Y, and Yerushalayim.
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amother
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Sun, Oct 17 2021, 11:21 pm
amother [ Maple ] wrote: | Ok here's my pet peeve. Bas Tzion is from tanach. Bentzion is a boys version with no tanach source.
Anyone who knows me and reads this will know who I am from this post lol |
But why is that a peeve?
Why does it bother you so much?
It's a beautiful name and according to our inquiries may be derived from Batzion.
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amother
Aconite
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Sun, Oct 17 2021, 11:22 pm
some of these are a stretch and I wouldn't necessarily give them as names myself because I don't consider these all to be names, but here are ideas
Yaffa(klilat yofi)
Chemda (eretz chemda tova/kol machamudeha)
Hadara (vatetze mibat tzion kol hadara)
Tiferet
any happy name (mesos kol haaretz)
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amother
Copper
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Sun, Oct 17 2021, 11:22 pm
Di anyone ever hear the name shlima? Shortened to shlimy? I just recently heard of someone who gave the name and I thought it was beautiful.
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amother
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Sun, Oct 17 2021, 11:26 pm
Found this on some israel tourism website
In addition to the historical names, there exist many poetic names for Jerusalem in the Bible:
Ir Ha'Emet (Zech 8:3) – City of Truth
Kiryah Ne'emanah (Is 1:25) – Faithful City
Kiriyah Aliza (Is 22:2) – Joyful City
Gai Hizayon (Is 22:1) – Valley of Vision
Ariel (Is 29:1) – Lion of God (This is also the name of a modern Israeli city.)
Kiryat Hannah David (Is 29:1) – City of David's Camp
Drushah (Is 62:12) – Desired one
Gilah (Is 65:18) – Joy
Tzur Hamishor (Jer 21:13) – The Rock of the Plain
Neveh Zedek (Jer 31:22) – Dwelling of Righteousness
Oholivah (Ezek 23:4) – My Tent is in Her
Ir Ha'Elohim (Ps 87:2) – City of G-d
And, of course, this one:
Klilat Yoffi (Lam 2:15) – Encompassing Beauty
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amother
Starflower
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Sun, Oct 17 2021, 11:27 pm
Another vote for Ariella. A bit of trivia - R' Asher Arieli's grandfather wanted to change his last name to something related to E"Y. He chose Arieli after consulting R' Kook.
Also Geula.
Maybe Tamar for land of milk and honey.
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amother
Aconite
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Sun, Oct 17 2021, 11:32 pm
Also, Google 70 names of Jerusalem.
There are many more
Israelforever has a a list of all 70, some of which can be names, like
Gila
(Kirya) aliza
Emunah, for kiryah neemanah
Cheftzibah (I actually know one!!!)
Rachel (didn't give a source)
Sarah(sarati bagoyim)
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amother
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Sun, Oct 17 2021, 11:32 pm
amother [ Starflower ] wrote: | Another vote for Ariella. A bit of trivia - R' Asher Arieli's grandfather wanted to change his last name to something related to E"Y. He chose Arieli after consulting R' Kook.
Also Geula.
Maybe Tamar for land of milk and honey. |
Did not know at all about the connection between Ariella and E"Y. Wow!
And I like geula too
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amother
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Sun, Oct 17 2021, 11:33 pm
amother [ OP ] wrote: | Did not know at all about the connection between Ariella and E"Y. Wow!
And I like geula too |
Yes and ariel was one of the names of yerushalayim too
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amother
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Sun, Oct 17 2021, 11:33 pm
amother [ Aconite ] wrote: | Found this on some israel tourism website
In addition to the historical names, there exist many poetic names for Jerusalem in the Bible:
Ir Ha'Emet (Zech 8:3) – City of Truth
Kiryah Ne'emanah (Is 1:25) – Faithful City
Kiriyah Aliza (Is 22:2) – Joyful City
Gai Hizayon (Is 22:1) – Valley of Vision
Ariel (Is 29:1) – Lion of God (This is also the name of a modern Israeli city.)
Kiryat Hannah David (Is 29:1) – City of David's Camp
Drushah (Is 62:12) – Desired one
Gilah (Is 65:18) – Joy
Tzur Hamishor (Jer 21:13) – The Rock of the Plain
Neveh Zedek (Jer 31:22) – Dwelling of Righteousness
Oholivah (Ezek 23:4) – My Tent is in Her
Ir Ha'Elohim (Ps 87:2) – City of G-d
And, of course, this one:
Klilat Yoffi (Lam 2:15) – Encompassing Beauty |
Love this!!! Aliza may be a real possibility...
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amother
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Sun, Oct 17 2021, 11:33 pm
amother [ Aconite ] wrote: | some of these are a stretch and I wouldn't necessarily give them as names myself because I don't consider these all to be names, but here are ideas
Yaffa(klilat yofi)
Chemda (eretz chemda tova/kol machamudeha)
Hadara (vatetze mibat tzion kol hadara)
Tiferet
any happy name (mesos kol haaretz) |
Love the suggestions, especially chemda. That's going on my short list.
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Mom/Bubby/Morah
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Mon, Oct 18 2021, 12:49 am
Loving Moriah
Chemdah
Gila
Aliza
Just curious why do you want a name related to EY or Yerushalayim ?
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amother
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Mon, Oct 18 2021, 1:01 am
Mom/Bubby/Morah wrote: | Loving Moriah
Chemdah
Gila
Aliza
Just curious why do you want a name related to EY or Yerushalayim ? |
Can't move to E"Y but love and miss it dearly, and esp in light of recent events, am feeling my connection very strongly. (Specifically a few months ago when there was all the rockets and so many not Jewish people in the celebrity and political world were openly condemning Israel and defending Palestinians, etc.) All my kids are named with names that had deep meaning to us and our spiritual journey. (Not to sound dramatic lol...normal yeshivishe background, but love beautiful names)
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Mon, Oct 18 2021, 1:09 am
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