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amother




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Post Wed, Jan 19 2022, 6:31 pm
COVID Shots Could Cause ‘Crippling’ Neurodegenerative Disease in Young People, MIT Scientist Warns
such as Parkinson’s and Alzheimer’s

Stephanie Seneff, Ph.D., senior research scientist at MIT Computer Science and Artificial Intelligence Laboratory

Is he reliable?
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amother




Hibiscus
 

Post Wed, Jan 19 2022, 6:33 pm
Obviously not if she is speaking out against the vaccine. Anyone who comes out against the vaccine is unreliable, a quack, or a conspiracy theorist.
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NotInNJMommy




 
 
 
 

Post Wed, Jan 19 2022, 6:33 pm
It's a she with a background in Computer Science. That much I do know. Do you have whatever article you are citing of hers?
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amother




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Post Wed, Jan 19 2022, 6:37 pm
NotInNJMommy wrote:
It's a she with a background in Computer Science. That much I do know. Do you have whatever article you are citing of hers?


Your right. Thanks.

She was on Fox News.

She is in computer science but focuses on toxins, biology, diseases, drug side effects”

“For over three decades, her research interests have always been at the intersection of biology and computation – developing a computational model for the human auditory system, understanding human language so as to develop algorithms and systems for human computer interactions, as well as applying natural language processing (NLP) techniques to gene predictions. She has published over 170 refereed articles on these subjects, and has been invited to give keynote speeches at several international conferences. She has also supervised numerous Master's and PhD theses at MIT.

In recent years, Dr. Seneff has focused her research interests back towards biology. She is concentrating mainly on the relationship between nutrition and health. Since 2011, she has published over 30 papers, together with colleagues, in various peer-reviewed medical and heath-related journals on topics such as modern day diseases (e.g., Alzheimer, autism, cardiovascular diseases), analysis and search of databases of drug side effects using NLP techniques, and the impact of nutritional deficiencies and environmental toxins on human health.”
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NotInNJMommy




 
 
 
 

Post Wed, Jan 19 2022, 6:41 pm
Her wikipedia article (Note that she is 73, and I would question how actively she is working---she may be, but she may not be). I also have a background in computer engineering. My dubiety alarm goes off at a computer science phd making medical claims or recommendations:

Stephanie Seneff (born April 20, 1948)[1]: 249  is a senior research scientist at the Computer Science and Artificial Intelligence Laboratory (CSAIL) of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT). Working primarily in the Spoken Language Systems group, her research at CSAIL relates to human-computer interaction, and algorithms for language understanding and speech recognition. In 2011, she began publishing controversial papers in low-impact, open access journals on biology and medical topics; the articles have received "heated objections from experts in almost every field she's delved into," according to the food columnist Ari LeVaux.[2]

Career[edit]
Seneff attended the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT), earning her bachelor of science (BS) in biophysics in 1968, a master's (MS) in electrical engineering in 1980, and a doctoral degree (PhD) in computer science in 1985.[3] She is a senior research scientist at the MIT Computer Science and Artificial Intelligence Laboratory (CSAIL).[4] Her research career focused on using computational modeling and analysis of the human auditory system to improve communication between humans and computers. She was elected a Fellow of the International Speech and Communication Association (ISCA) in 2012 as recognition for her "contributions to conversational human-computer systems and computer-assisted language learning".[5] Seneff collaborates with and is married to MIT professor Victor Zue.[6][7]

Biology and medical topics[edit]
In 2011, Seneff began publishing articles on topics related to biology and medicine in low-impact, open access journals, such as Interdisciplinary Toxicology and eight papers in the journal Entropy between 2011 and 2015.[2][8] According to food columnist Ari LeVaux, Seneff's work in this area has made her "a controversial figure in the scientific community" and she has received "heated objections from experts in most every field she's delved into".[2] In 2013, she coauthored a paper that associated the herbicide glyphosate with a wide variety of diseases such as cancer and disorders such as autism.[9] Discover magazine writer Keith Kloor criticized the uncritical republication of the study's results by other media outlets.[10] Jerry Steiner, the executive vice president of sustainability at Monsanto, said in an interview regarding the study that "We are very confident in the long track record that glyphosate has. It has been very, very extensively studied."[11] Seneff's claim that glyphosate is a major cause of autism and that, "At today's rates, by 2025, half the kids born will be diagnosed with autism," has also been criticized. For example, Pacific Standard noted that, contrary to Seneff's claims, many scientific reviews have found that the rise in autism rates over the past 20 years is due to changes in diagnostic practices, and that a number of studies, including a 2012 review in the Journal of Toxicology and Environmental Health, have found little evidence that glyphosate is associated with adverse development outcomes.[12]

Seneff and her MIT colleagues have also published on the health impacts of fat and cholesterol consumption in America. Based on this work, Seneff claimed that Americans are suffering from a cholesterol deficiency, not an excess.[13][14] In 2014–2016 Seneff was proposed as an expert witness for litigators seeking damages from Pfizer associated with their cholesterol drug Lipitor,[15] but the court dismissed the claim largely because Seneff lacked expert status and failed to provide credible evidence linking Lipitor to any specific harm.[16]

Response from scientists and academics[edit]
Clinical neurologist and skeptic Steven Novella criticized Seneff's Entropy publication for making "correlation is causation" assumptions using broad statistical extrapolations from limited data, saying "she has published only speculations and gives many presentations, but has not created any new data".[17] Scientists and scholars such as Derek Lowe, a medicinal chemist, and Jeffrey Beall, a library scientist known for his criticism of predatory open access publishers, have separately criticized Seneff's paper for misrepresenting the results and conclusions of other researchers' work. Lowe and Beall also noted that Entropy and its publisher, MDPI, have a known history of publishing studies without merit.[18][8]

A 2017 Review Article written by Kings College of London researchers and published by Frontiers in Public Health called Seneff's glyphosate health-risk research claims "a deductive reasoning approach based on syllogism" and "at best unsubstantiated theories, speculations or simply incorrect."[19] Consumers Union senior scientist Michael Hansen characterized Seneff and her glyphosate claims as "nutty", "truly unhinged", and "dangerous".[20]
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amother




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Post Wed, Jan 19 2022, 6:43 pm
https://dpbh.nv.gov/uploadedFi.....1.PDF
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amother




Hibiscus
 

Post Wed, Jan 19 2022, 6:44 pm
NotInNJMommy wrote:
Her wikipedia article (Note that she is 73, and I would question how actively she is working---she may be, but she may not be). I also have a background in computer engineering. My dubiety alarm goes off at a computer science phd making medical claims or recommendations:

Stephanie Seneff (born April 20, 1948)[1]: 249  is a senior research scientist at the Computer Science and Artificial Intelligence Laboratory (CSAIL) of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT). Working primarily in the Spoken Language Systems group, her research at CSAIL relates to human-computer interaction, and algorithms for language understanding and speech recognition. In 2011, she began publishing controversial papers in low-impact, open access journals on biology and medical topics; the articles have received "heated objections from experts in almost every field she's delved into," according to the food columnist Ari LeVaux.[2]

Career[edit]
Seneff attended the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT), earning her bachelor of science (BS) in biophysics in 1968, a master's (MS) in electrical engineering in 1980, and a doctoral degree (PhD) in computer science in 1985.[3] She is a senior research scientist at the MIT Computer Science and Artificial Intelligence Laboratory (CSAIL).[4] Her research career focused on using computational modeling and analysis of the human auditory system to improve communication between humans and computers. She was elected a Fellow of the International Speech and Communication Association (ISCA) in 2012 as recognition for her "contributions to conversational human-computer systems and computer-assisted language learning".[5] Seneff collaborates with and is married to MIT professor Victor Zue.[6][7]

Biology and medical topics[edit]
In 2011, Seneff began publishing articles on topics related to biology and medicine in low-impact, open access journals, such as Interdisciplinary Toxicology and eight papers in the journal Entropy between 2011 and 2015.[2][8] According to food columnist Ari LeVaux, Seneff's work in this area has made her "a controversial figure in the scientific community" and she has received "heated objections from experts in most every field she's delved into".[2] In 2013, she coauthored a paper that associated the herbicide glyphosate with a wide variety of diseases such as cancer and disorders such as autism.[9] Discover magazine writer Keith Kloor criticized the uncritical republication of the study's results by other media outlets.[10] Jerry Steiner, the executive vice president of sustainability at Monsanto, said in an interview regarding the study that "We are very confident in the long track record that glyphosate has. It has been very, very extensively studied."[11] Seneff's claim that glyphosate is a major cause of autism and that, "At today's rates, by 2025, half the kids born will be diagnosed with autism," has also been criticized. For example, Pacific Standard noted that, contrary to Seneff's claims, many scientific reviews have found that the rise in autism rates over the past 20 years is due to changes in diagnostic practices, and that a number of studies, including a 2012 review in the Journal of Toxicology and Environmental Health, have found little evidence that glyphosate is associated with adverse development outcomes.[12]

Seneff and her MIT colleagues have also published on the health impacts of fat and cholesterol consumption in America. Based on this work, Seneff claimed that Americans are suffering from a cholesterol deficiency, not an excess.[13][14] In 2014–2016 Seneff was proposed as an expert witness for litigators seeking damages from Pfizer associated with their cholesterol drug Lipitor,[15] but the court dismissed the claim largely because Seneff lacked expert status and failed to provide credible evidence linking Lipitor to any specific harm.[16]

Response from scientists and academics[edit]
Clinical neurologist and skeptic Steven Novella criticized Seneff's Entropy publication for making "correlation is causation" assumptions using broad statistical extrapolations from limited data, saying "she has published only speculations and gives many presentations, but has not created any new data".[17] Scientists and scholars such as Derek Lowe, a medicinal chemist, and Jeffrey Beall, a library scientist known for his criticism of predatory open access publishers, have separately criticized Seneff's paper for misrepresenting the results and conclusions of other researchers' work. Lowe and Beall also noted that Entropy and its publisher, MDPI, have a known history of publishing studies without merit.[18][8]

A 2017 Review Article written by Kings College of London researchers and published by Frontiers in Public Health called Seneff's glyphosate health-risk research claims "a deductive reasoning approach based on syllogism" and "at best unsubstantiated theories, speculations or simply incorrect."[19] Consumers Union senior scientist Michael Hansen characterized Seneff and her glyphosate claims as "nutty", "truly unhinged", and "dangerous".[20]


If you have no problem with Fauci's age, you shouldn't have a problem with hers.

It is also humorous how the pro vaxxers have no problem when Bill Gates promotes the vaccines. Or how the government paid celebs millions to promote the vaccine. But when a doctor comes out against the vaccine people start screaming how it's not their field of study.
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NotInNJMommy




 
 
 
 

Post Wed, Jan 19 2022, 6:45 pm
amother [ OP ] wrote:
https://dpbh.nv.gov/uploadedFiles/dpbhnvgov/content/Boards/BOH/Meetings/2021/SENEFF~1.PDF


That "journal" seems to be a vehicle for using science to further a platform, not a platform for furthering science.
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amother




Clematis
 

Post Wed, Jan 19 2022, 6:47 pm
Wow. You would think that Fox News would at least have checked her Wikipedia page before inviting her on. Or had the sense to edit it (as anyone can). Even if the criticism were baseless, this is really not a good look.

Then again, according to conspiracy theorists, the more people call a person “unhinged” the more they respect them.
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NotInNJMommy




 
 
 
 

Post Wed, Jan 19 2022, 6:50 pm
amother [ Hibiscus ] wrote:
If you have no problem with Fauci's age, you shouldn't have a problem with hers.

It is also humorous how the pro vaxxers have no problem when Bill Gates promotes the vaccines. Or how the government paid celebs millions to promote the vaccine. But when a doctor comes out against the vaccine people start screaming how it's not their field of study.


If she's actually doing research, like actual research, I am dubious. And she may be, but she might also be paying slave labor (ie. phd students) and using her reputation to further a position rather than using defensible data and analysis.

I also see what Fauci is doing because there are cameras on him all the time---seems like most folks here didn't even know that she's a woman.

I never took Bill Gates' opinions on a vaccine into account---it's just not relevant.

Her work making medical recommendations seems to be shoddy and published in journals of dubious reputation. Her training and career--the legitimate part thereof--seem not particularly related to what is being attributed to her here.
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SixOfWands




 
 
 
 

Post Wed, Jan 19 2022, 7:24 pm
Seneff is a bit obsessed with Roundup. Which is bad stuff, don't get me wrong. But she blames it for everything, from autism to covid, with no evidence. According to Seneff:

Quote:
the genetically modified corn used to produce ethanol has been sprayed with glyphosate and that the chemical is, therefore, present in the gasoline to which the ethanol is added. When the fuel burns, the glyphosate is aerosolized, and when inhaled, affects the immune system resulting in the "cytokine storm" that characterizes some cases of COVID-19. What is her evidence? She preposterously introduces the case of a couple in their 70s, Robert and Elizabeth Mar, who both died from the disease. In her words: “The Mars’ were both in their 70s, so they match the profile of increased susceptibility due to older age. But perhaps a more significant factor was the fact that their restaurant was located just a few blocks from Interstate 5, an 8-lane highway where trucks, buses, and cars passed by all day long, spewing out toxic exhaust fumes.”


https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/arti.....id-19

Unfortunately for her theory, glyphosate decomposes at 187 °C; moreover, there is no evidence that it is ever found in ethanol. Or that it has anything at all to do with covid. For example, its not used in Italy, which was an early victim of the pandemic.

Seneff is also in general an anti-vaxxer, long before covid.

She has as much right to an opinion as anyone else, from Bill Gates to Big Bird. But its utterly disingenuous to hold her out as a "senior research scientist" without mentioning that her credentials are completely unrelated to vaccines or epidemiology. And not to mention that she opposes all vaccines.
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