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amother
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 Thu, Jan 25 2024, 4:07 pm
I’m learning about the connection now and looking for guidance please.
My son checks off all the boxes and I’d love to fix it. Not sure how to proceed though.
Any help is greatly appreciated
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mom4many
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Thu, Jan 25 2024, 4:35 pm
I can’t say I know much about the topic, but I saw Mel robbins hosted a breathing expert - Patrick McKeowen, about overcoming the tendency to breathe from the mouth.
I recommend staying seeing it in youtube, because there are real demonstrations. You probably can find more info from him - books, etc.
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amother
Begonia
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Thu, Jan 25 2024, 4:36 pm
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No advice, but thanks for bringing it up. Haven't heard of this before, but ds has severe adhd and always has been mouth breathing, especially at night. I have to look into this.
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amother
DarkViolet
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Thu, Jan 25 2024, 6:25 pm
The way to fix mouth breathing is to address whats causing it. It's usually multifactorial and multi layered with a lot of chicken or egg kind of causation, but causes include tongue tie, improper resting tongue posture, narrow jaws, high palate, deviated septum, enlarged tonsils and adenoids, chronic congestion, weak oral muscle tone, and then plain old habit.
You would need to address any and all of these potential causes. People who can help identify the causes and correct them are airway informed ENTs, myofunctional therapists, airway informed orthodontists. Osteopaths, chiropractors and craniosacral therapists are also good professionals to have on your team.
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amother
DarkViolet
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Thu, Jan 25 2024, 6:40 pm
| mom4many wrote: | I can’t say I know much about the topic, but I saw Mel robbins hosted a breathing expert - Patrick McKeowen, about overcoming the tendency to breathe from the mouth.
I recommend staying seeing it in youtube, because there are real demonstrations. You probably can find more info from him - books, etc. |
He has some great books on the benefits of mouth breathing on overall health
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amother
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Thu, Jan 25 2024, 6:42 pm
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Wow so interesting. My DH has ADHD and is a major mouth breather.
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amother
DarkViolet
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Thu, Jan 25 2024, 6:46 pm
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honey36
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Thu, Jan 25 2024, 8:27 pm
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Your should probably start with a myofunctional therapist. Unless DS cannot physically breathe through his nose for 3 minutes in which case you should start with an ENT. He will probably still need the myofunctional therapy after that though.
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hanna2010
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Thu, Jan 25 2024, 11:25 pm
Sone thing else to think about along these lines…
“Considering the complex relationship between ADHD and sleep problems, the recommendation to screen for OSA (Obstructive Sleep Apnea) and other sleep problems among persons being assessed for ADHD should be upheld.”
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38230976/
Relevant for all snoring patients with focus problems!
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hanna2010
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Thu, Jan 25 2024, 11:26 pm
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Mouth breathing is often eliminate or improved when using cpap
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honeymoon
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Thu, Jan 25 2024, 11:30 pm
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This is really interesting. 2 of my kids are mouth breathers. No adhd but I'd love to address it when they're still young because of the other health issues it can cause. Where do I start?
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Thisisnotmyreal
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Thu, Jan 25 2024, 11:32 pm
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CPAP is just a bandaid and can cause lung damage after long term use. I understand it's popular but there are underlying issues causing this like dark blue mentioned.
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amother
DarkViolet
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Thu, Jan 25 2024, 11:37 pm
| honeymoon wrote: | | This is really interesting. 2 of my kids are mouth breathers. No adhd but I'd love to address it when they're still young because of the other health issues it can cause. Where do I start? | myofunctional therapist and or airway informed orthodontist
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honeymoon
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Thu, Jan 25 2024, 11:38 pm
Any recommendations in the Brooklyn area? Do most of these people take insurance?
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amother
Sand
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Thu, Jan 25 2024, 11:41 pm
| honeymoon wrote: | | Any recommendations in the Brooklyn area? Do most of these people take insurance? |
None of them take insurance. Its a fortune to deal with this all.
Dina Ezagui in Crown Heights is great for myo therapy.
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amother
DarkViolet
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Thu, Jan 25 2024, 11:41 pm
| honeymoon wrote: | | Any recommendations in the Brooklyn area? Do most of these people take insurance? | Dina Ezagui
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amother
DarkViolet
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Thu, Jan 25 2024, 11:42 pm
| amother Sand wrote: | None of them take insurance. Its a fortune to deal with this all.
Dina Ezagui in Crown Heights is great for myo therapy. | I wouldn't say none, but harder to find
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honeymoon
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Thu, Jan 25 2024, 11:52 pm
| amother Sand wrote: | None of them take insurance. Its a fortune to deal with this all.
Dina Ezagui in Crown Heights is great for myo therapy. |
Thank you. How much can I expect to shell out to treat this?
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honeymoon
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Thu, Jan 25 2024, 11:53 pm
Thank you. Hope I don't need to empty my pockets for this. On average how long does it take to see improvement?
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amother
DarkViolet
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Thu, Jan 25 2024, 11:55 pm
| honeymoon wrote: | | Thank you. Hope I don't need to empty my pockets for this. On average how long does it take to see improvement? | It really depends on what you have going on but it can be quite the journey
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