Thanksgiving.... Oser??

Sat, Nov 27 2004, 10:21 pm

I just heard from my husband that one of the Rabbis in our city said it was oser to celebrate Thanksgiving. I'm curious to hear what your reaction is to that.

zuncompany

Sat, Nov 27 2004, 11:05 pm

shmais had a wonderful article on this... let me see if I can find a link

ForeverYoung
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Sun, Nov 28 2004, 8:26 pm

I think as long as we remember to thank H' every day, nothing's wrong w/ a turkey supper.

we do not selebrate it, but a friend of myne has her not-frum family over, which is beautiful.

Motek

Mon, Nov 29 2004, 1:30 pm

my sister and b-in-law were told they could not attend his family's Thanksgiving party

here's a link to an article that discusses it:

http://www.tfdixie.com/special/thanksg.htm

ForeverYoung
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Mon, Nov 29 2004, 2:21 pm

thanks for interesting read -

I think tht if attending thanksgiving dinner would create friction in family, probably they would be allowed to go,
but I guess in thier case it's a shaila to be asked.

Rivka

Sun, Dec 26 2004, 1:20 pm

I don't have thanksgiving in my country but what is the reason to not being able to go to someone's party for it? All it is is remembering the English Puritans that came over to the US and actually survived the journey without getting scurvey and those indian folk didn't kill them either. So if you live in the US maybe you should be thanking Hashem too coz otherwise you wouldn't be there.

Motek

Sun, Dec 26 2004, 1:27 pm

if you read the article I posted the link to, your question will be answered.

Rivka

Tue, Dec 28 2004, 8:11 am

I did read it and it depends who you would go by really.

shoy18

Tue, Nov 22 2005, 9:35 am

why would thanksgiving be assur? In my family we all have turkey all the relatives and all its just a perfect time to get together everyone is off from work. This country ie United States does great things for the jewish people why not celebrate a FREE country where are grandparents were able to set up a better life for us. Its not a christan holiday or muslim its just a day of thanks, you can inturpurt it any way you please.

Motek

Tue, Nov 22 2005, 9:50 am

if you read the link I posted, you would understand the question

shoy18

Tue, Nov 22 2005, 10:04 am

sorry I didnt see the link however after reading it the end basically states thier is no real reason one cant celebrate it as long as they dont veiw it as a mandatory celebration every year and wouldnt mind missing one if they had to

elisecohen

Tue, Nov 22 2005, 11:10 am

I read both the articles. My understanding of R' Hechts was pro-Thanksgiving, that his rebbe from his youth had misunderstood either the holiday or the halacha; and of the second that they allowed it as a secular holiday of value to American Jews who should appreciate the relatively light weight of galus upon us as opposed to many other Jews in the world under far more oppressive regimes. I didn't see either of them rendering family observance ossur.

Motek

Tue, Nov 22 2005, 11:26 am

The high school I attended had a regular day of classes on Thanksgiving because the hanhala is of the opinion that it is a religious holiday.

In other words, it's not like ALL rabbis agree on this.

TzenaRena

Tue, Nov 22 2005, 12:27 pm

I don't think this has anything to do with observances, but I remember that the Rebbe once touched upon the concept of Thanksgiving as an American holiday in a positive note, in a sicha. Sorry, I don't remember the sicha. Maybe someone has a reference.

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shayna82

Tue, Nov 22 2005, 12:32 pm

theres nothign wrong with celebrating it as jews proud in our country... there was def. a hand of Hashem in the whole pilgrim story

Rivka

Wed, Nov 23 2005, 10:33 am

There is nothing wrong with celebrating it.
As long as you remember not to say hallel.

chen

Wed, Nov 23 2005, 12:10 pm

Rivka wrote:

As long as you remember not to say hallel.

But you have to say Hodu (see other thread Hodu=Thanks=turkey) Wink

oooh, boy, this purim-torah is gathering force! keep those ideas coming in, then I can dress up as an indian with turkey feathers in my hair and have a purimspiel to match!