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Post Sun, Apr 18 2010, 8:27 pm
Chloe wrote:
Why do you people call this Mechalel Shabbos?
Pikuach Nefesh Doyche Shabbos. You're not being Mechalel Shabbos if it falls under this category.


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Post Sun, Apr 18 2010, 9:08 pm
chanamiriam wrote:
mechalel means desecration. not something you do not normally do on shabbat.

the very element of pikuach nefesh makes it NOT mechalel. it is still something you might not normally do, but it is not mechalel in that situation.
I'm not sure that you still don't use the term of mechalel Shabbos though, even in the event you are not only allowed to, but should. Comes to mind the phrase (from the story of Hillel) : ' "challel olov shabbos achas" in order that he should be able to keep many shabbosos.'
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Post Sun, Apr 18 2010, 9:36 pm
chanamiriam wrote:
mechalel means desecration. not something you do not normally do on shabbat.

the very element of pikuach nefesh makes it NOT mechalel. it is still something you might not normally do, but it is not mechalel in that situation.


There is actually a concept of having a Jew do certain melachos for you on shabbos in a case of pikuach nefesh/choleh as its KAVOD Shabbos. I'll find the source if someone wants, but has to do with not giving non-Jews the impression that shabbos isnt so important so we'll let the non-Jew do anything for us.
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