Help me figure out names please, Andzil? Chippa?

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Teacup9

Tue, Aug 09 2011, 2:53 pm

I have a relative listed as ר׳ הﬠנדזיל
Has anyone seen the name ﬠנדזיל
before? His English name was Anchel

Also ציפא
pronounced more like chippa. I'd assume it was just another version of Tziporah but the aleph ending is so Yiddish to me and the pronunciation throws me off.

Yippie

Tue, Aug 09 2011, 2:55 pm

antzel is more like anshel- אנטשיל

Besiyata Dishmaya

Tue, Aug 09 2011, 3:06 pm

I know of an אשר ענזיל and I've heard of the מהר"י ענזיל. I think he lived about 200 years ago.

I know of several ציפא and a טשיפא. They're both derivates from צפורה

Ruchel

Tue, Aug 09 2011, 3:13 pm

Is it the rabbi's given name or surname?

If surname I have Polish ANGEL relatives. Interestingly, Sefardic too.

OOTBubby

Tue, Aug 09 2011, 4:01 pm

Teacup9 wrote:

I have a relative listed as ר׳ הﬠנדזיל

We have a close friend whose name is Henzel -- it is a family name (he has a cousin with the same name).

Raisin

Tue, Aug 09 2011, 4:03 pm

I know a tzippa.

Teacup9

Tue, Aug 09 2011, 4:20 pm

Ruhel it is a first name. The picture of Chippa's kever reads
tzipa bat ר׳ הﬠנדזיל

Yippie so how would you pronounce it?

Thank you Besiyata Dishmaya and OOTBubbie. So what do you think about the dalet in my relative's name?

amother

Tue, Aug 09 2011, 4:25 pm

Teacup9 wrote:

Anshel for a boy, or Henchel for a girl?
Chippa and Zipa are the same name. My great grandmother was Zipa, with an aleph just as you write it. Are we related? Some people gave the name Zipa Ziporah, or Zipa Faige, or Zipa Ziporah Feigy and just call them Tzippy!
Sometimes names on tombstones were misspelled.

Teacup9

Tue, Aug 09 2011, 5:04 pm

amother wrote:

Teacup9 wrote:

We could be related if she is ציפא
bat ר׳ הﬠנדזיל and buried in Mount Zion in Masbeth

amother

Tue, Aug 09 2011, 5:17 pm

I thought tzippa - whichever way its spelled - is a nickname for tzipporah, at least in our family tree it seems that way.

Thats what women were called - but full name was tzipporah.

In russia (and other countrues if any that favored "ke" nicknames to girls names) I think tzip'ke is not easy to say so- tzippe.

amother

Tue, Aug 09 2011, 5:22 pm

Teacup9 wrote:

amother wrote:

Teacup9 wrote:

We could be related if she is ציפא
bat ר׳ הﬠנדזיל and buried in Mount Zion in Masbeth

Guess the name was quite common. No sorry its not the same one. But spelled exactly the same.
Mine is buried in Israel.

Besiyata Dishmaya

Sat, Aug 13 2011, 2:32 pm

Teacup9 wrote:

Many people add a daled after the nun to (first or last) names with nun-zayin or a nun-samech because that's what it sounds like to them. These name are not Lashon Hakodesh so the spelling is the way it sounds.

amother wrote:

אנשיל and ענזיל are two different names. They might have originated from another name. Maybe Ruchel would know from where.

הענטשא has nothing to do with these name. Hentcha is from Hena. The 'cha' endings of names are the way they were nicknamed (Gitcha from Gittel, Rivtcha from Rivka, Hentcha from Hena), like the "ee" or "I" (Dovi, Suri) today. Eventually many of these nicknames became names.

Chippa and Tzippa are derivates from the name Tzipporah but today all three are names of their own.

freidasima

Sat, Aug 13 2011, 5:13 pm

Anshel is a diminutive of asher
Antzil I've never heard of as a separate name but rather a different way of writing Anshel.

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