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amother
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 Mon, Mar 07 2022, 9:34 am
PSA polio is NOT easily preventable.
Parents prior to the vaccine lived in great fear of their children getting struck with it.
They did everything and anything to protect their children.
The children who got struck with this horrific disease did not get it because their parents' were unaware or neglectful. While correct polio was not as contagious as measles which lingers for a few hours in the air and can have damaging lifelong effects on children it infects; polio was far more lethal with far worse consequences R"L.
Please look at statistics.
While no vaccine is perfect Jonas Salk was and is a tremendous hero who basically eradicated a childhood scourge and parental nightmare.
Iin fact, if people choose not to vaccinate this really should be the one they do give. At least please please make informed decisions. We live in a false utopia regarding polio precisely because of the effectiveness of this particular vaccine.
Wishing all health and happiness!
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amother
Amaryllis
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Mon, Mar 07 2022, 9:36 am
| dena613 wrote: | I think that any sane person would say
WE DO NOT WANT ANY SICKNESSES!
NO MACHALOS AT ALL!!!
I don't understand people here who want polio??????!!!!!! |
It's only one person.
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amother
Azure
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Mon, Mar 07 2022, 9:40 am
I am skeptical regarding these initial reports regarding this case, were this all true then it would have happened before globally.
Waiting patiently for the dust to settle and facts to coalesce and be verified.
Particularly nowadays when I just heard on my radio that two previously reported two deaths some months ago in the US and which were loudly proclaimed by the media and teachers' unions to be the reason not to reopen schools as they claimed due to these children coming home from school and infecting and killing their respective parents were in fact now proven FALSE. One parent had covid but died with covid due to a different reason. The other died from alcoholism and alcohol poisoning and did not even test positive for Covid.
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amother
Crystal
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Mon, Mar 07 2022, 11:44 am
| amother [ Azure ] wrote: | PSA polio is NOT easily preventable.
Parents prior to the vaccine lived in great fear of their children getting struck with it.
They did everything and anything to protect their children.
The children who got struck with this horrific disease did not get it because their parents' were unaware or neglectful. While correct polio was not as contagious as measles which lingers for a few hours in the air and can have damaging lifelong effects on children it infects; polio was far more lethal with far worse consequences R"L.
Please look at statistics.
While no vaccine is perfect Jonas Salk was and is a tremendous hero who basically eradicated a childhood scourge and parental nightmare.
Iin fact, if people choose not to vaccinate this really should be the one they do give. At least please please make informed decisions. We live in a false utopia regarding polio precisely because of the effectiveness of this particular vaccine.
Wishing all health and happiness! |
Exactly. People create alternate realities in an attempt to rationalize their stance. We're not talking about an age old disease that was only present in the 1800s in a third world countries. We're talking about a disease that was still present in first world USA in the 1960s up till the point where the vaccine was developed. Hygiene was very well established in the 1950-60s, and yet it still felled kids left and right.
Polio was feared by all parents back then and should still be feared today. There is no cure for it, and most everyone hit with it is left with life long disabilities - that's the best case scenario.
Anyone proposing otherwise, has their heads buried in the sand. Anyone proposing that it's a better alternative than an uncomfortable two or even four years, has literally no idea of the lifelong suffering polio creates. I'm pretty sure that every parent and every victim would take a 2-5 year lockdown over the lifelong polio consequences.
A statement such as 'bring on polio' screams of ignorance and naivete.
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amother
Magenta
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Mon, Mar 07 2022, 12:03 pm
So after the kid with polio was released from the hospital her parents sent her straight back to gan.
She's still contagious, obviously.
Anyone who doesn't want anti-vaxxers blamed for diseases spreading - this is why we blame them.
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amother
Amaryllis
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Mon, Mar 07 2022, 12:06 pm
| amother [ Magenta ] wrote: | So after the kid with polio was released from the hospital her parents sent her straight back to gan.
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WHAT??? I thought she's paralyzed??
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amother
Magenta
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Mon, Mar 07 2022, 12:06 pm
| amother [ Azure ] wrote: | PSA polio is NOT easily preventable.
Parents prior to the vaccine lived in great fear of their children getting struck with it.
They did everything and anything to protect their children.
The children who got struck with this horrific disease did not get it because their parents' were unaware or neglectful. While correct polio was not as contagious as measles which lingers for a few hours in the air and can have damaging lifelong effects on children it infects; polio was far more lethal with far worse consequences R"L.
Please look at statistics.
While no vaccine is perfect Jonas Salk was and is a tremendous hero who basically eradicated a childhood scourge and parental nightmare.
Iin fact, if people choose not to vaccinate this really should be the one they do give. At least please please make informed decisions. We live in a false utopia regarding polio precisely because of the effectiveness of this particular vaccine.
Wishing all health and happiness! |
Today it's easily preventable. All you need to do is give your kids a safe and reliable vaccine.
The vaccines for measles and covid can't be given to young children (measles not till 1 year, covid not till 5 years), so there's no way to protect young children. For polio there is a way to protect them, practically from birth.
I agree that polio should be one vaccine everyone gives.
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amother
Magenta
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Mon, Mar 07 2022, 12:08 pm
| Genius wrote: | Just stop!!! Stop saying awful things! You wish people would get polio because you decided that it will make covid go?! Please. Just please stop. Go say tehillim if that will make you stop spewing this idiocy.
Nobody is giving anyone a choice of which disease we rather want. So no one asked you to choose. |
So because it's uncomfortable and awful, it's less true or legitimate? Good to know.
Also good to know that in your book, anything you don't like is considered idiocy.
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amother
Magenta
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Mon, Mar 07 2022, 12:09 pm
| amother [ Amaryllis ] wrote: | | Extremely debatable. Those pockets have high herd immunity when it comes to corona. |
True, or so we think, anyways. Then again, till the next mutation, and till the covid immunity wears off. Which is only a matter of a few months, max a year. However, if they are busy passing polio, they are probably not busy mutating covid.
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amother
Magenta
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Mon, Mar 07 2022, 12:10 pm
| amother [ Amaryllis ] wrote: | | WHAT??? I thought she's paralyzed?? |
No, not yet. She was admitted to the hospital presenting with weakness (neurological weakness, not muscle weakness) throughout the left side of her body. That doesn't equal paralyzed and the doctors are hoping that she won't be struck with permanent paralysis, but are concerned that she might deteriorate to that point ch"v.
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amother
Amaryllis
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Mon, Mar 07 2022, 12:12 pm
| amother [ Magenta ] wrote: | | True, or so we think, anyways. Then again, till the next mutation, and till the covid immunity wears off. Which is only a matter of a few months, max a year. However, if they are busy passing polio, they are probably not busy mutating covid. |
Omg. Chas v' Shalom. Please please stop, thats a terrible thing to wish on helpless children!! Corona is nothing more than a cold or flu for kids, Polio is life altering!!
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amother
Amaryllis
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Mon, Mar 07 2022, 12:14 pm
| amother [ Magenta ] wrote: | | No, not yet. She was admitted to the hospital presenting with weakness (neurological weakness, not muscle weakness) throughout the left side of her body. That doesn't equal paralyzed and the doctors are hoping that she won't be struck with permanent paralysis, but are concerned that she might deteriorate to that point ch"v. |
Ok, got it. Yikes. How awful on so many levels.
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amother
Aubergine
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Mon, Mar 07 2022, 12:14 pm
| amother [ Amaryllis ] wrote: | | Omg. Chas v' Shalom. Please please stop, thats a terrible thing to wish on helpless children!! Corona is nothing more than a cold or flu for kids, Polio is life altering!! |
Yes, Magenta אל תפתח פה לשטן
We don’t need to choose the lesser of the 2 evil.
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amother
Magenta
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Mon, Mar 07 2022, 12:17 pm
| amother [ Amaryllis ] wrote: | | Omg. Chas v' Shalom. Please please stop, thats a terrible thing to wish on helpless children!! Corona is nothing more than a cold or flu for kids, Polio is life altering!! |
For some kids. Many who had it last year are still suffering this year - they no longer succeed in school, are too tired to play sports, suffered PIMS, suffer migraines, muscle aches, memory problems, weakness, get sick with everything now, etc.
People like to claim covid is nothing more than a cold or flu for kids but that's simply not true for a significant percentage of kids. And btw polio isn't life-altering for over 90% of kids who get it...
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amother
Amaryllis
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Mon, Mar 07 2022, 12:19 pm
| amother [ Magenta ] wrote: | For some kids. Many who had it last year are still suffering this year - they no longer succeed in school, are too tired to play sports, suffered PIMS, suffer migraines, muscle aches, memory problems, weakness, get sick with everything now, etc.
People like to claim covid is nothing more than a cold or flu for kids but that's simply not true for a significant percentage of kids. And btw polio isn't life-altering for over 90% of kids who get it... |
Neither is covid. And nothing you mentioned, migraines, memory, weakness comes close to iron lung/ paralysis/ death.
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imorethanamother
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Mon, Mar 07 2022, 12:21 pm
| Thisisnotmyreal wrote: | | Polio spreads through contaminated water and food as long as we have good infrastructure and hygiene in place this is not scary. |
No, Polio is also spread through the air after initial infection, as well as after changing diapers or cleaning little kids. If any of you are super confident that your four year old is OCD about washing their hands, then more power to you.
For the rest of us, polio isn’t scary when we are vaccinated. It is when we aren’t.
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amother
Magenta
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Mon, Mar 07 2022, 12:23 pm
| amother [ Amaryllis ] wrote: | | Neither is covid. And nothing you mentioned, migraines, memory, weakness comes close to iron lung/ paralysis/ death. |
PIMS? And kids have died of covid, too. And we don't know how any of the affected kids will fare next year or in ten years from now. Look up SSPE after measles - covid could do that too (polio doesn't).
Point is, there's enough in common that this isn't an insane comparison.
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amother
Amaryllis
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Mon, Mar 07 2022, 12:26 pm
| amother [ Magenta ] wrote: | PIMS? And kids have died of covid, too. And we don't know how any of the affected kids will fare next year or in ten years from now. Look up SSPE after measles - covid could do that too (polio doesn't).
Point is, there's enough in common that this isn't an insane comparison. |
But no. Really really no.
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amother
Sage
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Mon, Mar 07 2022, 1:32 pm
I’m not magenta but y’all are missing the point.
I doubt that she wants anyone to have polio… even to make a point.
She’s just acknowledging that hashem has given us access to the refuah - the makah will not impact ANYONE if EVERYONE uses the refuah
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happyone
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Mon, Mar 07 2022, 1:45 pm
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I didn't read through the whole thread but I wouldn't be surprised if it's fake news now that measles and covid died down.
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